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Nah, I'd rather say my piece. There isn't anything but toxicity to be had in conversation with someone who unironically takes the position that people changing

Nah, I'd rather say my piece. There isn't anything but toxicity to be had in conversation with someone who unironically takes the position that people changing their screen names to Elon Musk are impersonating him. Those banned are trolling him, plain and simple, and if you comment as though you can't see that, you deserve some judgement and scorn.

maxbond 4y ago
People with infuriating views still deserve respect. That's something Musk doesn't seem to understand. If you express yourself the way you just did, lurkers and people on the fence will read your comment. If you employ thought terminating cliches ("bootlicker") then they'll filter you out as noise.
- nullstyle 4y ago
  No, people deserve respect in the absence of behavior that earns disrespect.
  - maxbond 4y ago
    I disagreed with your behavior, but I engaged with you in an open minded way, and I think our conversation has been productive and respectful. I'd guess you probably feel you deserve that respect (and I'd agree).
exodust 4y ago
> "Those banned are trolling him, plain and simple" And...what's wrong with banning trolls? The nature of trolling isn't about "speech", it's about disruption of the platform that provides the chance for speech. And who uses the term "bootlicker" who isn't juvenile or suffering unknown issues? "You are now about to witness the strength of redditor knowledge..." Awesome, but your comment is a pile of ashes on the ground.
- maxbond 4y ago
  Trolling Musk on Twitter because you do not like his takeover is an act of protest & is patently speech. If I stated commenting on HN as "dang_sucks", and I was banned for it, I'd call it an overreach. You probably shouldn't throw stones about juvenile antics, seeing as you're inside that glass house.
  - exodust 4y ago
    Didn't the person in question also use Musk's profile pic? > overreach Do that in any forum on the internet, that is, troll using the Mod's name and profile picture, and see what happens. You might be lucky, but if you called your resulting ban an "overreach", it would be your error of judgement. In this case, the Twitter user clearly was breaking shit on the way out, then celebrated her own antics on the new platform. "Act of protest"? It's generous of you to equate trolling with protesting. Protesting is usually obvious what the protest is. What was hers about? The $8? Musk in general? It wasn't clear. It wasn't a protest. I think her banning is a good thing for Twitter. Impersonate someone, bye bye. They want a trusted platform. I have no skin in this at all. Not American, not a Twitter user, and I object to extreme left and right, but would like to see platforms like reddit and Twitter accommodate all sides. Rather than dwell in the echo chambers they gravitate towards. At least Musk is giving it a shot, if somewhat a messy shot. It's a messy world.
    - nullstyle 4y ago
      Musk is in no way "giving it a shot"

maxbond 4y ago

People with infuriating views still deserve respect. That's something Musk doesn't seem to understand. If you express yourself the way you just did, lurkers and people on the fence will read your comment. If you employ thought terminating cliches ("bootlicker") then they'll filter you out as noise.

nullstyle 4y ago
No, people deserve respect in the absence of behavior that earns disrespect.
- maxbond 4y ago
  I disagreed with your behavior, but I engaged with you in an open minded way, and I think our conversation has been productive and respectful. I'd guess you probably feel you deserve that respect (and I'd agree).

exodust 4y ago

> "Those banned are trolling him, plain and simple" And...what's wrong with banning trolls? The nature of trolling isn't about "speech", it's about disruption of the platform that provides the chance for speech. And who uses the term "bootlicker" who isn't juvenile or suffering unknown issues? "You are now about to witness the strength of redditor knowledge..." Awesome, but your comment is a pile of ashes on the ground.

maxbond 4y ago
Trolling Musk on Twitter because you do not like his takeover is an act of protest & is patently speech. If I stated commenting on HN as "dang_sucks", and I was banned for it, I'd call it an overreach. You probably shouldn't throw stones about juvenile antics, seeing as you're inside that glass house.
- exodust 4y ago
  Didn't the person in question also use Musk's profile pic? > overreach Do that in any forum on the internet, that is, troll using the Mod's name and profile picture, and see what happens. You might be lucky, but if you called your resulting ban an "overreach", it would be your error of judgement. In this case, the Twitter user clearly was breaking shit on the way out, then celebrated her own antics on the new platform. "Act of protest"? It's generous of you to equate trolling with protesting. Protesting is usually obvious what the protest is. What was hers about? The $8? Musk in general? It wasn't clear. It wasn't a protest. I think her banning is a good thing for Twitter. Impersonate someone, bye bye. They want a trusted platform. I have no skin in this at all. Not American, not a Twitter user, and I object to extreme left and right, but would like to see platforms like reddit and Twitter accommodate all sides. Rather than dwell in the echo chambers they gravitate towards. At least Musk is giving it a shot, if somewhat a messy shot. It's a messy world.
  - nullstyle 4y ago
    Musk is in no way "giving it a shot"