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it is related. It was created after Elon Musk bid[1] was accepted. Which is strange, suggesting that Musk would be bad, supporting the rhetoric that the million

it is related. It was created after Elon Musk bid[1] was accepted. Which is strange, suggesting that Musk would be bad, supporting the rhetoric that the millionaire owners of twitters would be more democratic than the billionaire Elon Musk. I know that hn is 100% for mastodon. I like it too. I just don't think that what EU is doing is unrelated with Musk and I don't like how EU stands behind this narrative that "before Twitter was good, now its evil". References: https://uk.pcmag.com/social-media/140088/eu-joins-mastodon-social-network-sets-up-its-own-server https://uk.pcmag.com/social-media/140088/eu-joins-mastodon-s...

arlort 4y ago
It was unfortunate timing, but Musk made his offer on the 14th of April, this instance was launched on the 25th I admire your faith in it but there's no way in hell two different branches of the Commission were able to coordinate a deployment, ask for the budget, make all the preparations on anything in two weeks I would be shocked if it took them less than 6-8 months to organize it all
- shapefrog 4y ago
  The EU are useless bureaucrats that can never and will never organise anything without spending years debating it and billions implementing it. The disguting EU are attacking Musk by deciding to implement this; funding, coordinating, building and launching this in 11 days. Oh and a personal f'you to google as they launched a youtube clone too... I admire people who can hold opposing opinions at the same time, but lets face it these both cant be true. I propse a more likely explanation, which is actually supportive of the Musk agenda (oh how inconvenient). Seeing Trump banned from Twitter made politicians realise they shouldnt be all in on the whims of "content moderators" at a corporation in another country. Or you could just read about the programme that produced it ... https://ec.europa.eu/info/departments/informatics/open-source-software-strategy_en https://ec.europa.eu/info/departments/informatics/open-sourc...
  - pelasaco 4y ago
    > Seeing Trump banned from Twitter made politicians realise they shouldnt be all in on the whims of "content moderators" at a corporation in another country. Interesting point. Which I would agree with you, but I tend to see the EU parliament pretty well aligned with democrats in EU and per consequence with Twitter moderation practices. I agree however with others here that probably in mastodon the radicalization should actually increase. I'm curious (not cheerleading) to see how Musk will tackle the moderation issue.
  - AmalgatedAmoeba 4y ago
    So… aren’t the first two paragraphs of your comment mutually exclusive? As in, given the timeline, either the EU are attacking Musk but can move pretty fast, or this has nothing to do with Musk?
    - shapefrog 4y ago
      I admire people who can hold opposing opinions at the same time, but lets face it these both cant be true.
- pelasaco 4y ago
  This timeline isn't really accurate. Elon started this on January 31, 2022[1], when he started to buy twitter shares batches daily. https://www.digitaltrends.com/social-media/elon-must-twitter-take-over-chronological-timeline/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/social-media/elon-must-twitter...
dncornholio 4y ago
You might not like it, but it's not unfounded. I'm glad EU steers away from Musk's endeavours. It seems like he would make an excellent scam artist.
- pelasaco 4y ago
  why its not unfounded? Reading his comments, looks like he will focus on having plurality on the moderation team and he will fight the bots and anonymous accounts which are quite noisy and disturbance to the real discussion. Twitter has potential to become the most important communication channel in the World, and I'm sure Musk will be the person leading it to this direction.
  - dncornholio 4y ago
    Because he has proven his comments don't mean anything. > Twitter has potential to become the most important communication channel in the World Isn't it already?
    - whatwherewhy 4y ago
      Is it? It has few 100s of millions of users, most of them in US - it's insignificant anywhere else. Older people don't know what it is, and younger people don't care about it - there's not enough dancing videos on it I guess.
      - dncornholio 4y ago
        Almost all people in politics use it. It's mostly 1 way traffic, but yes, politicians outside US use Twitter a lot.
        whatwherewhy 4y ago
        Outside the US? Maybe in addition to other media. Definitely not as their primary channel. They would be completely unknown if they did so.

arlort 4y ago

It was unfortunate timing, but Musk made his offer on the 14th of April, this instance was launched on the 25th I admire your faith in it but there's no way in hell two different branches of the Commission were able to coordinate a deployment, ask for the budget, make all the preparations on anything in two weeks I would be shocked if it took them less than 6-8 months to organize it all

shapefrog 4y ago
The EU are useless bureaucrats that can never and will never organise anything without spending years debating it and billions implementing it. The disguting EU are attacking Musk by deciding to implement this; funding, coordinating, building and launching this in 11 days. Oh and a personal f'you to google as they launched a youtube clone too... I admire people who can hold opposing opinions at the same time, but lets face it these both cant be true. I propse a more likely explanation, which is actually supportive of the Musk agenda (oh how inconvenient). Seeing Trump banned from Twitter made politicians realise they shouldnt be all in on the whims of "content moderators" at a corporation in another country. Or you could just read about the programme that produced it ... https://ec.europa.eu/info/departments/informatics/open-source-software-strategy_en https://ec.europa.eu/info/departments/informatics/open-sourc...
- pelasaco 4y ago
  > Seeing Trump banned from Twitter made politicians realise they shouldnt be all in on the whims of "content moderators" at a corporation in another country. Interesting point. Which I would agree with you, but I tend to see the EU parliament pretty well aligned with democrats in EU and per consequence with Twitter moderation practices. I agree however with others here that probably in mastodon the radicalization should actually increase. I'm curious (not cheerleading) to see how Musk will tackle the moderation issue.
- AmalgatedAmoeba 4y ago
  So… aren’t the first two paragraphs of your comment mutually exclusive? As in, given the timeline, either the EU are attacking Musk but can move pretty fast, or this has nothing to do with Musk?
  - shapefrog 4y ago
    I admire people who can hold opposing opinions at the same time, but lets face it these both cant be true.
pelasaco 4y ago
This timeline isn't really accurate. Elon started this on January 31, 2022[1], when he started to buy twitter shares batches daily. https://www.digitaltrends.com/social-media/elon-must-twitter-take-over-chronological-timeline/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/social-media/elon-must-twitter...

dncornholio 4y ago

You might not like it, but it's not unfounded. I'm glad EU steers away from Musk's endeavours. It seems like he would make an excellent scam artist.

pelasaco 4y ago
why its not unfounded? Reading his comments, looks like he will focus on having plurality on the moderation team and he will fight the bots and anonymous accounts which are quite noisy and disturbance to the real discussion. Twitter has potential to become the most important communication channel in the World, and I'm sure Musk will be the person leading it to this direction.
- dncornholio 4y ago
  Because he has proven his comments don't mean anything. > Twitter has potential to become the most important communication channel in the World Isn't it already?
  - whatwherewhy 4y ago
    Is it? It has few 100s of millions of users, most of them in US - it's insignificant anywhere else. Older people don't know what it is, and younger people don't care about it - there's not enough dancing videos on it I guess.
    - dncornholio 4y ago
      Almost all people in politics use it. It's mostly 1 way traffic, but yes, politicians outside US use Twitter a lot.
      - whatwherewhy 4y ago
        Outside the US? Maybe in addition to other media. Definitely not as their primary channel. They would be completely unknown if they did so.