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SNL is careful to not straight up copy the person they are parodying. They leave a lot of room to make it abundantly obvious that it is someone else performing

SNL is careful to not straight up copy the person they are parodying. They leave a lot of room to make it abundantly obvious that it is someone else performing parody. Maybe someday they'll leverage deep fakes to achieve something that is indistinguishable from the real person if you miss the minor details, at which point there will no doubt be calls to end what they are doing, but until that day comes...

socialismisok 4y ago
So, just like Twitter where every post is clearly labeled with the @id of the poster?
- randomdata 4y ago
  Yup, just like that. A downplayed detail that is there, but not obvious when quickly swiping through hundreds of Tweets as the typical user does. There is good reason why SNL avoids such subtlety and goes for overt differences in details when performing parody. Identity confusion isn't good comedy and isn't considered a good idea generally.
  - socialismisok 4y ago
    It's extremely obvious... It's the subheader for the post and in the URL and if you try to reply it's what shows up in the reply body. I find it stunning that anyone would suggest that the @id isn't a core and obvious part of someone's Twitter identity.
    - randomdata 4y ago
      In the feed it is presented small text in a muted grey, same as the date of posting which is equally likely to be ignored, and when read left to right, as is the style of our time, comes after the profile picture, person's name, and verified badge. You can find it if you're looking for it, but it is not something someone scrolling through casually is going to take notice of, especially since the first three components observed have been considered enough to verify identity until now. Which, indeed, is Griffin's implicit statement – that the blue badge is becoming meaningless when anyone can buy it for $8 – but that's also why there are holdover efforts to maintain the badge as a form of identity through banning of those trying to impersonate others. Maybe you think the @id should be the most visible piece of information so that this isn't an issue, and maybe you're right, but it most certainly is not. Reality doesn't care about your feelings towards things, it only deals with what is.
      - socialismisok 4y ago
        It's right at the top and clearly visible. It's really not hidden at all, and if you read the name of the tweets it's literally the next word that follows. You'd have to stop reading mid-line to not see it. I would understand your argument if it was in any way not obvious and centered alongside the posters name. Sure, maybe some non Twitter users won't understand, I'll grant you that, but impersonation and parody are so common everyone looks at the @.
        randomdata 4y ago
        > It's really not hidden at all Just like I said. Proof right here that readers shortcut over content that doesn't seem necessary. > You'd have to stop reading mid-line to not see it. Which the average user would being that there is only so much time in the day and you've already identified the poster leaving it to be a waste of time reading further during casual use. > but impersonation and parody are so common everyone looks at the @. The blue badge used to indicate that the account was a legitimate person using their legitimate real-world identity, and anyone who violated that was at risk of being banned, so impersonation has never been expected. And since the badge comes first...

socialismisok 4y ago

So, just like Twitter where every post is clearly labeled with the @id of the poster?

randomdata 4y ago
Yup, just like that. A downplayed detail that is there, but not obvious when quickly swiping through hundreds of Tweets as the typical user does. There is good reason why SNL avoids such subtlety and goes for overt differences in details when performing parody. Identity confusion isn't good comedy and isn't considered a good idea generally.
- socialismisok 4y ago
  It's extremely obvious... It's the subheader for the post and in the URL and if you try to reply it's what shows up in the reply body. I find it stunning that anyone would suggest that the @id isn't a core and obvious part of someone's Twitter identity.
  - randomdata 4y ago
    In the feed it is presented small text in a muted grey, same as the date of posting which is equally likely to be ignored, and when read left to right, as is the style of our time, comes after the profile picture, person's name, and verified badge. You can find it if you're looking for it, but it is not something someone scrolling through casually is going to take notice of, especially since the first three components observed have been considered enough to verify identity until now. Which, indeed, is Griffin's implicit statement – that the blue badge is becoming meaningless when anyone can buy it for $8 – but that's also why there are holdover efforts to maintain the badge as a form of identity through banning of those trying to impersonate others. Maybe you think the @id should be the most visible piece of information so that this isn't an issue, and maybe you're right, but it most certainly is not. Reality doesn't care about your feelings towards things, it only deals with what is.
    - socialismisok 4y ago
      It's right at the top and clearly visible. It's really not hidden at all, and if you read the name of the tweets it's literally the next word that follows. You'd have to stop reading mid-line to not see it. I would understand your argument if it was in any way not obvious and centered alongside the posters name. Sure, maybe some non Twitter users won't understand, I'll grant you that, but impersonation and parody are so common everyone looks at the @.
      - randomdata 4y ago
        > It's really not hidden at all Just like I said. Proof right here that readers shortcut over content that doesn't seem necessary. > You'd have to stop reading mid-line to not see it. Which the average user would being that there is only so much time in the day and you've already identified the poster leaving it to be a waste of time reading further during casual use. > but impersonation and parody are so common everyone looks at the @. The blue badge used to indicate that the account was a legitimate person using their legitimate real-world identity, and anyone who violated that was at risk of being banned, so impersonation has never been expected. And since the badge comes first...