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It is most definitely not a bad take as I'm literally saying just what you imply: as per my comment, in many social circles that is what I've observed. Which do

by adlpz 4y ago

It is most definitely not a bad take as I'm literally saying just what you imply: as per my comment, in many social circles that is what I've observed. Which does reveal about my social circles. Which are circles I've come across in several countries throughout Europe, and across a large spread of socio-economic contexts. You can argue that your experience is different, I'm just providing mine which I've experienced consistently enough to find it worth pointing as a common divergence from what I see in the US.

scarface74 4y ago
If people in the EU don’t care about iMessage interoperability, then why is the government so keen on forcing Apple to make iMessage interoperate with other platforms? https://9to5mac.com/2022/03/24/eu-legislation-to-make-imessage-and-other-messaging-apps-interoperable/ https://9to5mac.com/2022/03/24/eu-legislation-to-make-imessa... And the only stats I could find say that iMessage is used more than WeChat https://www.androidauthority.com/imessage-big-deal-guide-3087606/ https://www.androidauthority.com/imessage-big-deal-guide-308... Could it be that maybe your anecdote is meaningless outside of your bubble?
- eredengrin 4y ago
  > If people in the EU don’t care about iMessage interoperability, then why is the government so keen on forcing Apple to make iMessage interoperate with other platforms? The legislation is aimed at opening up the APIs of all messaging apps/companies which meet their criteria for being a "gatekeeper". Apple simply happens to meet those criteria. > And the only stats I could find say that iMessage is used more than WeChat Your article called their data an estimate without giving any insight into how the data was estimated, other than the caveat that it may include users who only used imessage for sms.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    > Your article called their data an estimate without giving any insight into how the data was estimated, other than the caveat that it may include users who only used imessage for sms You mean anecdata without hard facts are meaningless??? You don’t say.
    - eredengrin 4y ago
      Given you were so keen to call out the ineffectiveness of anecdotes, it's rather ironic for you to be giving out estimates with no real data behind them as somehow superior. Not to mention, where was the anecdote in your article? There's no anecdote there in a 1.3B estimate, for all I know it's just some random reporter's guess (backed up by who knows what), whereas an anecdote is at least a hard fact, just one with small sample size. If I don't know how the estimate is made then I probably actually prefer the anecdote.

by adlpz 4y ago

scarface74 4y ago

If people in the EU don’t care about iMessage interoperability, then why is the government so keen on forcing Apple to make iMessage interoperate with other platforms? https://9to5mac.com/2022/03/24/eu-legislation-to-make-imessage-and-other-messaging-apps-interoperable/ https://9to5mac.com/2022/03/24/eu-legislation-to-make-imessa... And the only stats I could find say that iMessage is used more than WeChat https://www.androidauthority.com/imessage-big-deal-guide-3087606/ https://www.androidauthority.com/imessage-big-deal-guide-308... Could it be that maybe your anecdote is meaningless outside of your bubble?

eredengrin 4y ago
> If people in the EU don’t care about iMessage interoperability, then why is the government so keen on forcing Apple to make iMessage interoperate with other platforms? The legislation is aimed at opening up the APIs of all messaging apps/companies which meet their criteria for being a "gatekeeper". Apple simply happens to meet those criteria. > And the only stats I could find say that iMessage is used more than WeChat Your article called their data an estimate without giving any insight into how the data was estimated, other than the caveat that it may include users who only used imessage for sms.
- scarface74 4y ago
  > Your article called their data an estimate without giving any insight into how the data was estimated, other than the caveat that it may include users who only used imessage for sms You mean anecdata without hard facts are meaningless??? You don’t say.
  - eredengrin 4y ago
    Given you were so keen to call out the ineffectiveness of anecdotes, it's rather ironic for you to be giving out estimates with no real data behind them as somehow superior. Not to mention, where was the anecdote in your article? There's no anecdote there in a 1.3B estimate, for all I know it's just some random reporter's guess (backed up by who knows what), whereas an anecdote is at least a hard fact, just one with small sample size. If I don't know how the estimate is made then I probably actually prefer the anecdote.