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What’s fascinating to me is that this discourse has the tone and pacing of literally any HN conversation. Take from that what you will.

by eckza 4y ago

63 4y ago
I was thinking similarly. The tone is incredibly casual considering the implications of the decision on both the company and society at large. There are basic spelling and grammar errors for goodness sake. I'm not criticizing, I just find that intensely interesting.
- dev_tty01 4y ago
  The rest of the conversation almost certainly happened in person. These emails were just getting out some initial thoughts. Happens all the time. Also, notice that Tim Cook wasn't in the email conversation.
  - 63 4y ago
    He was cc'd. You can see in one of the screenshots in the second tweet in the thread.
- csomar 4y ago
  The people at the top are not Gods. They are regular people, just like you and me; or more just like HN since they are working in Tech.
Maursault 4y ago
I thought most of it was a little surreal to converse about innovating that way, as though innovation was specific. No one here would ever say, "what we have to do as HN members is innovate. Once we do that, we can make our comments better and draw in more users from Slashdot." I thought the whole thing was fake until I got to the end and saw what Internal Tech Emails was. Then I just thought it was all pretty phoney. That isn't how ordinary people converse. I'd almost think they can walk without their feet ever touching the ground.
- seydor 4y ago
  Maybe they are writing fake emails because they know they will be leaked years later
jakey_bakey 4y ago
What are you saying? That we aren't all super different individuals and are actually in fact a very very narrow window of a specific tech culture? Madness.
seydor 4y ago
for me it was that one guy calls it "the best messaging app" , then federighi implies that it s not really and they d need a lot of effort to make a marginally better competitor. Also how they admit that a busy messaging service "does not cost us a lot to run", but HN constantly defends the 30% tax for app store storage space so yeah like HN, except in HN this would start an epic flamewar "how dare you say that"

What’s fascinating to me is that this discourse has the tone and pacing of literally any HN conversation. Take from that what you will.

by eckza 4y ago

What’s fascinating to me is that this discourse has the tone and pacing of literally any HN conversation. Take from that what you will.

63 4y ago

I was thinking similarly. The tone is incredibly casual considering the implications of the decision on both the company and society at large. There are basic spelling and grammar errors for goodness sake. I'm not criticizing, I just find that intensely interesting.

dev_tty01 4y ago
The rest of the conversation almost certainly happened in person. These emails were just getting out some initial thoughts. Happens all the time. Also, notice that Tim Cook wasn't in the email conversation.
- 63 4y ago
  He was cc'd. You can see in one of the screenshots in the second tweet in the thread.
csomar 4y ago
The people at the top are not Gods. They are regular people, just like you and me; or more just like HN since they are working in Tech.

Maursault 4y ago

I thought most of it was a little surreal to converse about innovating that way, as though innovation was specific. No one here would ever say, "what we have to do as HN members is innovate. Once we do that, we can make our comments better and draw in more users from Slashdot." I thought the whole thing was fake until I got to the end and saw what Internal Tech Emails was. Then I just thought it was all pretty phoney. That isn't how ordinary people converse. I'd almost think they can walk without their feet ever touching the ground.

seydor 4y ago
Maybe they are writing fake emails because they know they will be leaked years later

jakey_bakey 4y ago

What are you saying? That we aren't all super different individuals and are actually in fact a very very narrow window of a specific tech culture? Madness.

seydor 4y ago

for me it was that one guy calls it "the best messaging app" , then federighi implies that it s not really and they d need a lot of effort to make a marginally better competitor. Also how they admit that a busy messaging service "does not cost us a lot to run", but HN constantly defends the 30% tax for app store storage space so yeah like HN, except in HN this would start an epic flamewar "how dare you say that"