4 ms·

> - Homekit integration is really bad. It's quicker to pull out my key and unlock it manually than connect over BT and unlock it. It's even slower through the L

by judge2020 4y ago

> - Homekit integration is really bad. It's quicker to pull out my key and unlock it manually than connect over BT and unlock it. It's even slower through the Level app. HomeKey is meant to fix this, ie. it's an NFC key in your watch/phone wallet so whenever you hold your phone next to the lock it'll unlock without any network communication (and 'hold near' does not require double clicking side button, and it should work offline[0] like a transit pass, iirc) 0: https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/unlock-your-door-with-a-home-key-iph0dc255875/ios https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/unlock-your-door-with...

duped 4y ago
That doesn't fix or understand the problem, which is needing to physically take something out of my pocket to open my door. I don't see an advantage to using my phone's NFC to unlock the door over a key. Either way I need to put down whatever is in my hands to open the door.
- fragmede 4y ago
  that's the fault of whomever mounted the NFC sensor. if the NFC sensor was at pocket height, then you could lean against the sensor and activate it through the thin fabric of your pocket without using your hands
  - duped 4y ago
    You're misunderstanding the problem and the product. I don't use NFC to open the lock. It uses capacative touch sensing on the enclosure. There's a geofence that detects when my phone is within range (iirc it is not NFC). You're also assuming a lot about the position of the lock.
    - fragmede 4y ago
      I'm not assuming anything about the position of the lock. My point is that the lock can be moved around, as can the rest of the physical devices/infrastructure, to be more convenient for the user. Which helps everybody, especially if the needs of the disabled are considered.
- judge2020 4y ago
  The promo images for the Encode Plus emphasize watch usage - you just put your wrist near the lock. Still not as convenient as eg. face recognition but it's intended for someone who has bought into the whole Apple ecosystem.
  - henriquez 4y ago
    That doesn’t work though. I’ve never gotten the touch or the watch unlock or the NFC cards to do anything.

duped 4y ago

That doesn't fix or understand the problem, which is needing to physically take something out of my pocket to open my door. I don't see an advantage to using my phone's NFC to unlock the door over a key. Either way I need to put down whatever is in my hands to open the door.

fragmede 4y ago
that's the fault of whomever mounted the NFC sensor. if the NFC sensor was at pocket height, then you could lean against the sensor and activate it through the thin fabric of your pocket without using your hands
- duped 4y ago
  You're misunderstanding the problem and the product. I don't use NFC to open the lock. It uses capacative touch sensing on the enclosure. There's a geofence that detects when my phone is within range (iirc it is not NFC). You're also assuming a lot about the position of the lock.
  - fragmede 4y ago
    I'm not assuming anything about the position of the lock. My point is that the lock can be moved around, as can the rest of the physical devices/infrastructure, to be more convenient for the user. Which helps everybody, especially if the needs of the disabled are considered.
judge2020 4y ago
The promo images for the Encode Plus emphasize watch usage - you just put your wrist near the lock. Still not as convenient as eg. face recognition but it's intended for someone who has bought into the whole Apple ecosystem.
- henriquez 4y ago
  That doesn’t work though. I’ve never gotten the touch or the watch unlock or the NFC cards to do anything.