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50cc category is important in Japan because it's really easy and cheap to get license, and some high school students are allowed only to get 50cc license.

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kh1 4y ago
But there are people who ride illegal ebikes that go faster than 24km/h and I have never seen them getting caught
- filoleg 4y ago
  50cc scooters/bikes typically can go around 30-60mph (50-100kmph), so that comparison feels a bit unfair.
  - fomine3 4y ago
    Funnily, 50cc scooters/bikes are limited to 30km/h max! It's common to exceed the limit a bit.
    - MichaelZuo 4y ago
      How does that work when going downhill? 30km/h at the crest can easily turn into 60+ km/h at the bottom if it's steep.
      - schroeding 4y ago
        Of course, the manufacturer knows all the drivers are responsible and follow the law exactly and thus brake to not exceed the speed limit. ;-P
      - numpad0 4y ago
        It’s just the legal !important speed limit for 50cc class(“Type I bicycles with prime mover”).
    - Ekaros 4y ago
      45 km/h I think. 50cc and/or 4 kW depending on type of motor. But basically with light driver this isn't too hard enforcement.
    - toyg 4y ago
      It might depend on country, but typically it's 30 MILES per hour or 50 KILOMETERS per hour, which are roughly equivalent and match default speed limits on most European roads.
  - mkhpalm 4y ago
    50cc is typically about 30mph max. 30-60mph is more the 90-125cc category.
laurieg 4y ago
In 2024 there are new laws set to come into effect allowing pedal-less light electric vehicles in Japan. The rules include not requiring a helmet, not requiring a licence, no under 16s and a max speed of 20kph. It will be interesting to see how this affects the 50cc and below vehicle class, which require helmets, have a speed limit of 30kph (somewhat enforced, often broken) and are required to make a two-step right turn on larger junctions. It might be good timing to re-assess the rules for 50cc vehicles. Driving at 30kph while traffic is going past you at double the speed is more dangerous than moving with traffic. Differential speed limits have been shown to be unsafe and modern 50cc scooters can keep up with all but the fastest city traffic.
top_sigrid 4y ago
The same is true for Germany.

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kh1 4y ago

But there are people who ride illegal ebikes that go faster than 24km/h and I have never seen them getting caught

filoleg 4y ago
50cc scooters/bikes typically can go around 30-60mph (50-100kmph), so that comparison feels a bit unfair.
- fomine3 4y ago
  Funnily, 50cc scooters/bikes are limited to 30km/h max! It's common to exceed the limit a bit.
  - MichaelZuo 4y ago
    How does that work when going downhill? 30km/h at the crest can easily turn into 60+ km/h at the bottom if it's steep.
    - schroeding 4y ago
      Of course, the manufacturer knows all the drivers are responsible and follow the law exactly and thus brake to not exceed the speed limit. ;-P
    - numpad0 4y ago
      It’s just the legal !important speed limit for 50cc class(“Type I bicycles with prime mover”).
  - Ekaros 4y ago
    45 km/h I think. 50cc and/or 4 kW depending on type of motor. But basically with light driver this isn't too hard enforcement.
  - toyg 4y ago
    It might depend on country, but typically it's 30 MILES per hour or 50 KILOMETERS per hour, which are roughly equivalent and match default speed limits on most European roads.
- mkhpalm 4y ago
  50cc is typically about 30mph max. 30-60mph is more the 90-125cc category.

laurieg 4y ago

In 2024 there are new laws set to come into effect allowing pedal-less light electric vehicles in Japan. The rules include not requiring a helmet, not requiring a licence, no under 16s and a max speed of 20kph. It will be interesting to see how this affects the 50cc and below vehicle class, which require helmets, have a speed limit of 30kph (somewhat enforced, often broken) and are required to make a two-step right turn on larger junctions. It might be good timing to re-assess the rules for 50cc vehicles. Driving at 30kph while traffic is going past you at double the speed is more dangerous than moving with traffic. Differential speed limits have been shown to be unsafe and modern 50cc scooters can keep up with all but the fastest city traffic.

top_sigrid 4y ago

The same is true for Germany.