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I hope they bring Dreamcast back. Modding the old dreamcast is a hassle. Also, hopefully there would be an easy way to load all the games on the mini version.

pcurve 4y ago
ah what a fantastic console that was. Still remember first time playing Soul Caliber, thinking how the graphics was possible. (not to mention all the cool characters like Sung Mina, Yoshimitsu, Cervantes...)
- psychstudio 4y ago
  Wasn't Yoshi from Tekken?
  - pcurve 4y ago
    Oh, looks like he is in both games! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshimitsu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshimitsu
  - pvg 4y ago
    He was but is an early crossover character. You almost have to wonder if he was designed for it from the get go.
- CTDOCodebases 4y ago
  For me this was the console where the home console experience was as good as the arcade. Sure the Neo Geo AES was technically the same as the Neo Geo MVS but they weren’t sold in my region.
causality0 4y ago
Yes. Just the brand-new high quality controller would be worth the asking price for use with PC emulation.
YurgenJurgensen 4y ago
6th gen mini consoles seem unlikely for a variety of reasons. There's the more powerful hardware needed, which will push the price up, along with the more complex controllers, which basically won't be any cheaper to make now than they were at launch. Then there's storage. If people are expecting 30-60 games, and all of those games are a gig each, you're probably going to need a 64GB micro SD card, which is another increase to the BoM bill. The PS Classic probably avoided putting too many multi-disc games and analogue sticks for this reason, but you can't ignore this in the 6th gen. The big killer is going to be licensing costs though. 5th gen and earlier games generate basically no revenue. Even the more popular ones only sell for $5-$10 when they're rereleased, and most don't sell at all. By the 6th gen though, the basic level of graphical fidelity is high enough that "HD Remasters" are now a thing that you can sell for $30 each, or maybe $60 as a trilogy and can be produced for very little upfront investment. This makes convincing rightsholders to license inclusion of a game for probably $1 per unit a hard sell, as for most of them, that's severely undercutting themselves with the same target audience.
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  Thanks for the detailed explanation. Given all the roadblocks you mentioned towards getting a legit way to play such old games, is anyone surprised that piracy is still a thing?
  - vanattab 4y ago
    What roadblocks did he mention? Paying $30, hardly seems like a road block you just don't want to pay so you steal.
    - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
      I didn't steal anything. The roadblock is that vintage games are not available for purchase in present time for present systems. Nintendo doesn't loose any money if download and emulate a ROM of a game they stopped selling 30 years ago.
AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
> Modding the old dreamcast is a hassle What? The DreamCast is one of the easiest systems to mod, assuming you mean replacing the optical drive with an ODE. You don't need to solder anything. Besides, the mini would just be an emulator anyway.

pcurve 4y ago

ah what a fantastic console that was. Still remember first time playing Soul Caliber, thinking how the graphics was possible. (not to mention all the cool characters like Sung Mina, Yoshimitsu, Cervantes...)

psychstudio 4y ago
Wasn't Yoshi from Tekken?
- pcurve 4y ago
  Oh, looks like he is in both games! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshimitsu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshimitsu
- pvg 4y ago
  He was but is an early crossover character. You almost have to wonder if he was designed for it from the get go.
CTDOCodebases 4y ago
For me this was the console where the home console experience was as good as the arcade. Sure the Neo Geo AES was technically the same as the Neo Geo MVS but they weren’t sold in my region.

causality0 4y ago

Yes. Just the brand-new high quality controller would be worth the asking price for use with PC emulation.

YurgenJurgensen 4y ago

6th gen mini consoles seem unlikely for a variety of reasons. There's the more powerful hardware needed, which will push the price up, along with the more complex controllers, which basically won't be any cheaper to make now than they were at launch. Then there's storage. If people are expecting 30-60 games, and all of those games are a gig each, you're probably going to need a 64GB micro SD card, which is another increase to the BoM bill. The PS Classic probably avoided putting too many multi-disc games and analogue sticks for this reason, but you can't ignore this in the 6th gen. The big killer is going to be licensing costs though. 5th gen and earlier games generate basically no revenue. Even the more popular ones only sell for $5-$10 when they're rereleased, and most don't sell at all. By the 6th gen though, the basic level of graphical fidelity is high enough that "HD Remasters" are now a thing that you can sell for $30 each, or maybe $60 as a trilogy and can be produced for very little upfront investment. This makes convincing rightsholders to license inclusion of a game for probably $1 per unit a hard sell, as for most of them, that's severely undercutting themselves with the same target audience.

ChuckNorris89 4y ago
Thanks for the detailed explanation. Given all the roadblocks you mentioned towards getting a legit way to play such old games, is anyone surprised that piracy is still a thing?
- vanattab 4y ago
  What roadblocks did he mention? Paying $30, hardly seems like a road block you just don't want to pay so you steal.
  - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
    I didn't steal anything. The roadblock is that vintage games are not available for purchase in present time for present systems. Nintendo doesn't loose any money if download and emulate a ROM of a game they stopped selling 30 years ago.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago

> Modding the old dreamcast is a hassle What? The DreamCast is one of the easiest systems to mod, assuming you mean replacing the optical drive with an ODE. You don't need to solder anything. Besides, the mini would just be an emulator anyway.