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In many countries, (incl. US), you can ride a moped with just a car license. The registration is greatly simplified compared to car and insurance wouldn't be th

In many countries, (incl. US), you can ride a moped with just a car license. The registration is greatly simplified compared to car and insurance wouldn't be that much.

rahimnathwani 4y ago
According to the California DMV, you can't ride a moped without a motorcycle licence: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-registration/new-registration/motorcycles-mopeds-and-scooters/ https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-registration/new-regis... "You must have a motorcycle license (M1 or M2) to drive a moped."
- dharmab 4y ago
  California is unusually restrictive compared to the rest of the country.
- JamesianP 4y ago
  I looked into it years ago and a moped license was way easier to get than a motorcycle license. Now it appears they both have the same requirements, just the M2 is more restricted in what it can be used for.
- graton 4y ago
  In Oregon if it is less than 50cc and can not go faster than 30mph on a flat level surface than it only requires a normal car driver's license. No motorcycle endorsement is required. https://www.oregon.gov/odot/forms/dmv/6619.pdf https://www.oregon.gov/odot/forms/dmv/6619.pdf
Markoff 4y ago
I'd say in most of the EU you can ride <125ccm motorbike with regular car license, so this changes nothing at least in EU. Heck, I don't even know what is supposed to be "50ccm" ebike, ebikes are limited by laws in regard to their power wattage (250W) and speed (25kmh), not volume. Specifically EU directive says for pedal assisted ebike is this: "cycles with pedal assistance which are equipped with an auxiliary electric motor having a maximum continuous rated power of 0.25 kW, of which the output is progressively reduced and finally cut off as the vehicle reaches a speed of 25 km/h [15.5 mph], or sooner, if the cyclist stops pedalling" Everything else ain't ebike and requires some sort of license. Though of course the reality is police won't be checking every single ebike on road and they have no way to meaure the power.
- camtarn 4y ago
  The 50cc and 125cc motorcycle classes are defined in the EU as both maximum volume and maximum power output in kW. So it's not too unusual to see '50cc-class' and '125cc-class' as descriptors for electric vehicles - a bit like how you could buy compact fluorescent or LED lights as '100W equivalent'.

In many countries, (incl. US), you can ride a moped with just a car license. The registration is greatly simplified compared to car and insurance wouldn't be that much.

rahimnathwani 4y ago

According to the California DMV, you can't ride a moped without a motorcycle licence: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-registration/new-registration/motorcycles-mopeds-and-scooters/ https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-registration/new-regis... "You must have a motorcycle license (M1 or M2) to drive a moped."

dharmab 4y ago
California is unusually restrictive compared to the rest of the country.
JamesianP 4y ago
I looked into it years ago and a moped license was way easier to get than a motorcycle license. Now it appears they both have the same requirements, just the M2 is more restricted in what it can be used for.
graton 4y ago
In Oregon if it is less than 50cc and can not go faster than 30mph on a flat level surface than it only requires a normal car driver's license. No motorcycle endorsement is required. https://www.oregon.gov/odot/forms/dmv/6619.pdf https://www.oregon.gov/odot/forms/dmv/6619.pdf

Markoff 4y ago

I'd say in most of the EU you can ride <125ccm motorbike with regular car license, so this changes nothing at least in EU. Heck, I don't even know what is supposed to be "50ccm" ebike, ebikes are limited by laws in regard to their power wattage (250W) and speed (25kmh), not volume. Specifically EU directive says for pedal assisted ebike is this: "cycles with pedal assistance which are equipped with an auxiliary electric motor having a maximum continuous rated power of 0.25 kW, of which the output is progressively reduced and finally cut off as the vehicle reaches a speed of 25 km/h [15.5 mph], or sooner, if the cyclist stops pedalling" Everything else ain't ebike and requires some sort of license. Though of course the reality is police won't be checking every single ebike on road and they have no way to meaure the power.

camtarn 4y ago
The 50cc and 125cc motorcycle classes are defined in the EU as both maximum volume and maximum power output in kW. So it's not too unusual to see '50cc-class' and '125cc-class' as descriptors for electric vehicles - a bit like how you could buy compact fluorescent or LED lights as '100W equivalent'.