> But abstract and engaging product vision does not come easily with them Well it's a good thing neither of those are particularly necessary or even going to b

> But abstract and engaging product vision does not come easily with them Well it's a good thing neither of those are particularly necessary or even going to be received well at them. After all - this is why you have PMs. It's not engineers who are dictating the direction product is going. It's the PMs and execs.