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You may be thinking of private trackers, where "ratio" is the currency of participation in that community. Debian, Libre Office, and even Humble Bundle care mor

You may be thinking of private trackers, where "ratio" is the currency of participation in that community. Debian, Libre Office, and even Humble Bundle care more about the community of seeders sharing the bandwidth load than whether anyone seeds their ratio

muwtyhg 4y ago
I believe they are trying to clarify if this code is only for the 'downloading' portion of a BitTorrent client. It does not seem have any code for handling requests for pieces coming from other peers.
palata 4y ago
No. I'm thinking that a BitTorrent client, in my naive understanding, should share the file while it downloads it. Otherwise it's just a client/server system, isn't it? That code is only downloading, as far as I can tell. Never sharing the file. I was just asking if that's tolerated in BitTorrent. My guess was that it is not.
- mdaniel 4y ago
  It is a client/server system, but pulling from $n hosts instead of just 1, spreading out the load and also downtime risk across all $n hosts. And the reason I mentioned the "ratio currency" is your use of the word "tolerated" here: BitTorrent isn't the mafia, it's just a protocol that offers the ability to share pieces back to the Internet. As another concrete example, aria2c (https://github.com/aria2/aria2#readme https://github.com/aria2/aria2#readme) behaves similarly: using BT to download, but then exiting without attempting to seed anything
  - palata 4y ago
    > It is a client/server system, but pulling from $n hosts instead of just 1, spreading out the load and also downtime risk across all $n hosts. Well the point of peer to peer is that peers share while they download. Otherwise, if everyone only downloads, then it doesn't really get distributed. Also I meant client/server in opposition to p2p. Many non-p2p systems "on the cloud" spread the load and downtime risk across machines, that is independent from the p2p part. > using BT to download, but then exiting without attempting to seed anything I am not saying that you should keep sharing after it is downloaded. But typically BT clients "force" you to share while downloading. > And the reason I mentioned the "ratio currency" is your use of the word "tolerated" here: BitTorrent isn't the mafia, it's just a protocol that offers the ability to share pieces back to the Internet. Sure, sorry for my english, not my mothertongue :-). I know it is not the mafia, and I know it is a protocol. I used the word "tolerated" to ask whether or not, in practice, that gets you banned.

muwtyhg 4y ago

I believe they are trying to clarify if this code is only for the 'downloading' portion of a BitTorrent client. It does not seem have any code for handling requests for pieces coming from other peers.

palata 4y ago

No. I'm thinking that a BitTorrent client, in my naive understanding, should share the file while it downloads it. Otherwise it's just a client/server system, isn't it? That code is only downloading, as far as I can tell. Never sharing the file. I was just asking if that's tolerated in BitTorrent. My guess was that it is not.

mdaniel 4y ago
It is a client/server system, but pulling from $n hosts instead of just 1, spreading out the load and also downtime risk across all $n hosts. And the reason I mentioned the "ratio currency" is your use of the word "tolerated" here: BitTorrent isn't the mafia, it's just a protocol that offers the ability to share pieces back to the Internet. As another concrete example, aria2c (https://github.com/aria2/aria2#readme https://github.com/aria2/aria2#readme) behaves similarly: using BT to download, but then exiting without attempting to seed anything
- palata 4y ago
  > It is a client/server system, but pulling from $n hosts instead of just 1, spreading out the load and also downtime risk across all $n hosts. Well the point of peer to peer is that peers share while they download. Otherwise, if everyone only downloads, then it doesn't really get distributed. Also I meant client/server in opposition to p2p. Many non-p2p systems "on the cloud" spread the load and downtime risk across machines, that is independent from the p2p part. > using BT to download, but then exiting without attempting to seed anything I am not saying that you should keep sharing after it is downloaded. But typically BT clients "force" you to share while downloading. > And the reason I mentioned the "ratio currency" is your use of the word "tolerated" here: BitTorrent isn't the mafia, it's just a protocol that offers the ability to share pieces back to the Internet. Sure, sorry for my english, not my mothertongue :-). I know it is not the mafia, and I know it is a protocol. I used the word "tolerated" to ask whether or not, in practice, that gets you banned.