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Interestingly, this does not affect iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus. Either the production lines for them are not affected (yet) or Apple have plenty of inventory

by xuki 4y ago

Interestingly, this does not affect iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus. Either the production lines for them are not affected (yet) or Apple have plenty of inventory for the holiday season.

DennisAleynikov 4y ago
It just seems like nobody wants the 14 or 14 Plus, there hasn't been any demand and apples been cutting back production there
- dmix 4y ago
  Even a less popular iPhone product would still easily be a massive production operation compared to most other electronic hardware being made. Supply might be good for now but there's consequences in the near term.
- batiudrami 4y ago
  When you can get an iPhone 13 Pro for almost the same price but it is objectively better (or alternatively get an iPhone 13 on clearance, which is almost the same device) it isn’t hard to see why the regular 14 isn’t selling amongst people who are upgrading early in the release cycle and are therefore more likely to be enthusiasts.
  - arcticbull 4y ago
    In what way is the 13 Pro better? Curious.
    - batiudrami 4y ago
      Than the iPhone 14 (non-Pro)? It has a brighter screen which runs at 120Hz (not 60) and it has the additional telephoto lens (and LiDAR, though I don't think there's any use for that still). I also think it looks nicer, but that's a personal preference. Because Apple didn't upgrade the CPU in the non-pro this year the iPhone 13 Pro is still the better device.
      - arcticbull 4y ago
        Ah I think I misread. Thanks!
- girvo 4y ago
  The Apple Store near me told me that the 14 Plus sold less than even the 13 Mini. Which is kind of wild to me, I thought most wanted bigger phones and huge batteries, which is why the Mini line was killed. I say that as someone who thinks the 13 Mini is the best phone I’ve ever owned, but I always figured it was niche compared to huge phones
  - ch4s3 4y ago
    Yeah the 13 mini is a pretty excellent form factor. It fits in most hands, pockets, and slots in bags. It’s even small enough to toss in a suit jacket without being visible or causing the jacket to sag.
    - coldtea 4y ago
      Fits in most hands, sure, but I never understood this "fits in pockets" obsession - tons of similar comments for all kinds of gadgets, when even a 2x version would fit any normal pocket (on a jeans say, or a coat) just fine.
      - djtango 4y ago
        Hmm an iPhone mini leaves a small enough impression in a pocket that it is acceptable to run with it in a shorts pocket An iPhone 14 plus barely fits 100% in some tighter pockets on jeans/trousers and gives significant restriction in movement and comfort. YMMV.
        ch4s3 4y ago
        Yeah, being able to run with it in my pocket is great too. I find the armbands are super uncomfortable.
      - texec 4y ago
        You may want to look at it from a non male perspective: for smaller people and tighter trousers or small exterior pockets on skirts and other clothing the smaller (mini) version often just fits and is one comfortable to wear even with regular movement (think of very tight stretching jeans).
kccqzy 4y ago
They are made in India. https://www.macrumors.com/2022/09/26/apple-manufacturing-iphone-14-india/ https://www.macrumors.com/2022/09/26/apple-manufacturing-iph...
- dividedbyzero 4y ago
  I just ordered a M2 Macbook Air and apparently they ship those directly out of China. It's already cleared customs in Zhengzhou according to tracking, which would indicate they make those there and have no issues fulfilling orders currently.
  - Cockbrand 4y ago
    I've seen that as well… one machine I ordered was misrouted via Korea (as per the tracking page) and arrived here in Germany with a few days delay.
  - metaphor 4y ago
    > ...which would indicate they make those there and have no issues fulfilling orders currently. Based on FY22 total net sales[1], the entire Mac category accounted for 10.2%, whereas iPhone category accounted for 52.1%. In other words, if iPhone production volume were reduced by just -10% of FY22 levels going into the holidays, that would be equivalent to half of Mac revenue! The press release was making forward-looking statements so you may be correct, but this thought experiment suggests that even if they were experiencing Mac throughput issues, it's almost irrelevant if the same facility is being shared with iPhone production. [1] https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320193/000032019322000108/aapl-20220924.htm https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320193/0000320193220...
Tagbert 4y ago
The Pro and regular iPhone 14s and MacBooks are all built in different factories.

by xuki 4y ago

Interestingly, this does not affect iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus. Either the production lines for them are not affected (yet) or Apple have plenty of inventory for the holiday season.

DennisAleynikov 4y ago

It just seems like nobody wants the 14 or 14 Plus, there hasn't been any demand and apples been cutting back production there

dmix 4y ago
Even a less popular iPhone product would still easily be a massive production operation compared to most other electronic hardware being made. Supply might be good for now but there's consequences in the near term.
batiudrami 4y ago
When you can get an iPhone 13 Pro for almost the same price but it is objectively better (or alternatively get an iPhone 13 on clearance, which is almost the same device) it isn’t hard to see why the regular 14 isn’t selling amongst people who are upgrading early in the release cycle and are therefore more likely to be enthusiasts.
- arcticbull 4y ago
  In what way is the 13 Pro better? Curious.
  - batiudrami 4y ago
    Than the iPhone 14 (non-Pro)? It has a brighter screen which runs at 120Hz (not 60) and it has the additional telephoto lens (and LiDAR, though I don't think there's any use for that still). I also think it looks nicer, but that's a personal preference. Because Apple didn't upgrade the CPU in the non-pro this year the iPhone 13 Pro is still the better device.
    - arcticbull 4y ago
      Ah I think I misread. Thanks!
girvo 4y ago
The Apple Store near me told me that the 14 Plus sold less than even the 13 Mini. Which is kind of wild to me, I thought most wanted bigger phones and huge batteries, which is why the Mini line was killed. I say that as someone who thinks the 13 Mini is the best phone I’ve ever owned, but I always figured it was niche compared to huge phones
- ch4s3 4y ago
  Yeah the 13 mini is a pretty excellent form factor. It fits in most hands, pockets, and slots in bags. It’s even small enough to toss in a suit jacket without being visible or causing the jacket to sag.
  - coldtea 4y ago
    Fits in most hands, sure, but I never understood this "fits in pockets" obsession - tons of similar comments for all kinds of gadgets, when even a 2x version would fit any normal pocket (on a jeans say, or a coat) just fine.
    - djtango 4y ago
      Hmm an iPhone mini leaves a small enough impression in a pocket that it is acceptable to run with it in a shorts pocket An iPhone 14 plus barely fits 100% in some tighter pockets on jeans/trousers and gives significant restriction in movement and comfort. YMMV.
      - ch4s3 4y ago
        Yeah, being able to run with it in my pocket is great too. I find the armbands are super uncomfortable.
    - texec 4y ago
      You may want to look at it from a non male perspective: for smaller people and tighter trousers or small exterior pockets on skirts and other clothing the smaller (mini) version often just fits and is one comfortable to wear even with regular movement (think of very tight stretching jeans).

kccqzy 4y ago

They are made in India. https://www.macrumors.com/2022/09/26/apple-manufacturing-iphone-14-india/ https://www.macrumors.com/2022/09/26/apple-manufacturing-iph...

dividedbyzero 4y ago
I just ordered a M2 Macbook Air and apparently they ship those directly out of China. It's already cleared customs in Zhengzhou according to tracking, which would indicate they make those there and have no issues fulfilling orders currently.
- Cockbrand 4y ago
  I've seen that as well… one machine I ordered was misrouted via Korea (as per the tracking page) and arrived here in Germany with a few days delay.
- metaphor 4y ago
  > ...which would indicate they make those there and have no issues fulfilling orders currently. Based on FY22 total net sales[1], the entire Mac category accounted for 10.2%, whereas iPhone category accounted for 52.1%. In other words, if iPhone production volume were reduced by just -10% of FY22 levels going into the holidays, that would be equivalent to half of Mac revenue! The press release was making forward-looking statements so you may be correct, but this thought experiment suggests that even if they were experiencing Mac throughput issues, it's almost irrelevant if the same facility is being shared with iPhone production. [1] https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320193/000032019322000108/aapl-20220924.htm https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320193/0000320193220...

Tagbert 4y ago

The Pro and regular iPhone 14s and MacBooks are all built in different factories.