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You've described a bunch of specific constraints that don't apply to "anyone, everywhere". None of those items apply to me. It doesn't cost me anything to go i

by throwaway22032 4y ago

You've described a bunch of specific constraints that don't apply to "anyone, everywhere". None of those items apply to me. It doesn't cost me anything to go into the office, it doesn't take hours, there's no pollution involved (at least, none over just the base rate of me being outside). The idea that not wanting to spend every day Mon-Fri constantly around my SO means I have "issues at home" I can only really imagine is projection. I don't particularly care if you like WFH, but pretending no-one actually likes working in person is denial of reality. Hi, I exist.

PenguinCoder 4y ago
I don't particularly care if you like working in an office, but pretending everyone likes working in person, in a shared office, is a denial of reality. People who do better at WFH have had to put up with and deal with the "butts in seat" work mentality for decades, even after remote work has been a possibility, especially in tech. Not everyone wants to be in an office, not everyone wants to be WFH. We shouldn't be forcing people to do either, if they don't want. Choice would be nice, but I'm way beyond dealing with being forced to come into an office as an employment requirement too.
- throwaway22032 4y ago
  Some jobs require employees to work in person, some jobs require them to work from home. There is no force involved, that's hyperbolic. I'm not aware of anyone arguing that everyone enjoys working in person. That would be daft. The existence of this thread disproves that.
coldtea 4y ago
>None of those items apply to me. It doesn't cost me anything to go into the office, it doesn't take hours, there's no pollution involved (at least, none over just the base rate of me being outside). Then you already WFH, or from "next door to home". What's more, you're an exception, in a world with billions of commuters. >*The idea that not wanting to spend every day Mon-Fri constantly around my SO means I have "issues at home" I can only really imagine is projection. (...) but pretending no-one actually likes working in person is denial of reality. Hi, I exist." Again, not everything is about you. For some people WFH is bad because of a bad home environment. In good home environments, the ability to spend more time with kids/spouse is a good thing. Note also how nothing about WFH means that you need to work from your actual home, or that you need to spend "every day Mon-Fri constantly around your SO".

PenguinCoder 4y ago

I don't particularly care if you like working in an office, but pretending everyone likes working in person, in a shared office, is a denial of reality. People who do better at WFH have had to put up with and deal with the "butts in seat" work mentality for decades, even after remote work has been a possibility, especially in tech. Not everyone wants to be in an office, not everyone wants to be WFH. We shouldn't be forcing people to do either, if they don't want. Choice would be nice, but I'm way beyond dealing with being forced to come into an office as an employment requirement too.

throwaway22032 4y ago
Some jobs require employees to work in person, some jobs require them to work from home. There is no force involved, that's hyperbolic. I'm not aware of anyone arguing that everyone enjoys working in person. That would be daft. The existence of this thread disproves that.

coldtea 4y ago

>None of those items apply to me. It doesn't cost me anything to go into the office, it doesn't take hours, there's no pollution involved (at least, none over just the base rate of me being outside). Then you already WFH, or from "next door to home". What's more, you're an exception, in a world with billions of commuters. >*The idea that not wanting to spend every day Mon-Fri constantly around my SO means I have "issues at home" I can only really imagine is projection. (...) but pretending no-one actually likes working in person is denial of reality. Hi, I exist." Again, not everything is about you. For some people WFH is bad because of a bad home environment. In good home environments, the ability to spend more time with kids/spouse is a good thing. Note also how nothing about WFH means that you need to work from your actual home, or that you need to spend "every day Mon-Fri constantly around your SO".