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If we’re all clear that US policy does not consider Taiwan a part of China (i.e. the PRC), I don’t have more to add.

Apocryphon 4y ago
U.S. policy officially considers it as a part of China (i.e. the ROC). That is de facto not a viable reality for many decades now, but it is the de jure legal fiction. As such, your criticism of the GP is incorrect. Because they were correct in asserting "According to official US policy, which is the One China policy, Taiwan and mainland China are the same country", Washington just disagrees with Beijing which that same country is.
- CogitoCogito 4y ago
  You seem to refer to some fictional country when you use “China”. Basically all people refer to an actual country that does exist: the PRC. So when I say the US policy is not that Taiwan is part of China, I mean that US policy is not that Taiwan is part of the PRC. So I’m not really sure what your point is. Is your point that US policy states that Taiwan is part of the PRC? If you’re not staying that, you’re not disagreeing with me.
  - Apocryphon 4y ago
    > You seem to refer to some fictional country when you use “China”. That's precisely how the One China policy works. That's literally what strategic ambiguity is about. In a 1972 joint communiqué with the PRC, the United States "acknowledges that all Chinese on either side of the Taiwan Strait maintain there is but one China and that Taiwan is a part of China" and "does not challenge that position." So it's talking about a hypothetical sovereign authority that extends over both the Chinese mainland and Taiwan. At present, the U.S. government recognizes the ROC, based in Taipei, as that government. It's a legal fiction, yes, but one that remains unchanged since 1972. > Is your point that US policy states that Taiwan is part of the PRC? The point is U.S. policy states that mainland China is part of the ROC! Notes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_of_deliberate_ambiguity#Taiwan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_of_deliberate_ambiguity...
- philliphaydon 4y ago
  No. The US does NOT consider Taiwan part of China. The US acknowledges China's position that it believes Taiwan is part of China. This is like saying "i accept that you think the sky is neon yellow".

U.S. policy officially considers it as a part of China (i.e. the ROC). That is de facto not a viable reality for many decades now, but it is the de jure legal fiction. As such, your criticism of the GP is incorrect. Because they were correct in asserting "According to official US policy, which is the One China policy, Taiwan and mainland China are the same country", Washington just disagrees with Beijing which that same country is.

CogitoCogito 4y ago
You seem to refer to some fictional country when you use “China”. Basically all people refer to an actual country that does exist: the PRC. So when I say the US policy is not that Taiwan is part of China, I mean that US policy is not that Taiwan is part of the PRC. So I’m not really sure what your point is. Is your point that US policy states that Taiwan is part of the PRC? If you’re not staying that, you’re not disagreeing with me.
- Apocryphon 4y ago
  > You seem to refer to some fictional country when you use “China”. That's precisely how the One China policy works. That's literally what strategic ambiguity is about. In a 1972 joint communiqué with the PRC, the United States "acknowledges that all Chinese on either side of the Taiwan Strait maintain there is but one China and that Taiwan is a part of China" and "does not challenge that position." So it's talking about a hypothetical sovereign authority that extends over both the Chinese mainland and Taiwan. At present, the U.S. government recognizes the ROC, based in Taipei, as that government. It's a legal fiction, yes, but one that remains unchanged since 1972. > Is your point that US policy states that Taiwan is part of the PRC? The point is U.S. policy states that mainland China is part of the ROC! Notes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_of_deliberate_ambiguity#Taiwan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_of_deliberate_ambiguity...
philliphaydon 4y ago
No. The US does NOT consider Taiwan part of China. The US acknowledges China's position that it believes Taiwan is part of China. This is like saying "i accept that you think the sky is neon yellow".