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I agree that his approach is odd, to say the least. But Elon is clearly marketing himself as part of a counter-culture movement that's opposed to the current do

by mjr00 4y ago

I agree that his approach is odd, to say the least. But Elon is clearly marketing himself as part of a counter-culture movement that's opposed to the current dominant neoliberal/corporate zeitgeist (but isn't quite alt-right). It's extremely deliberate. Whether or not it's a good idea remains to be seen. Certainly in the short term it hasn't been.

georgeg23 4y ago
Yes he needs to curry favors with Republicans to get the big DoD contracts for: https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Military_capabilities https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Military_capabilities
toss1 4y ago
Yes, I see that he wants to market to that not-quite-alt-right-but-not-neoliberal customer. I just do not see how any of his actions actually help enhance that even with even an idealized version of such a customer, and does not alienate even that customer. How does it establish any credibility with anyone to 1) be so unprepared for a critical advertiser's (your customers) presentation that customers literally cut their spend during the meeting; 2) publicly make excuses trying to blame for your failures on some "activist groups" who actually had no influence on advertisers' (your customers) decision to cut spending; 3) destroying verification and turning it into a anyone-can-pay-$8-to-say-they-are-anyone-and-get-greater-reach; 4) come into a $44B deal making a lot of noise and failing to articulate a plan, any plan that gets anyone on board?; etc., etc., etc. I wish Elon all the success in the world, but he is seriously flailing here, and creating confidence in no one. I expect that he has a good chance of sorting it out once he understands the issues, but he's clearly done no homework up front, so is figuring it out in real time. I do not see how this helps him, even with his ideal customer. Of course, as usual his comments have plenty of fanbois claiming whatever he does must be 4-D Chess, but seriously, how does this much public flailing, thrashing, and excuses give anyone confidence? Can you point to any specific action that would actually give such a customer more confidence? From what I've read, the RW people are also really pissed at him because they expected to be able to rush right in and raise hell, and that's not yet happening either... EDIT: A new case in point: "Comedy is now legal on Twitter" 5:16 PM · Oct 28, 2022 [0] "Going forward, any Twitter handles engaging in impersonation without clearly specifying “parody” will be permanently suspended" 5:53 PM · Nov 6, 2022 [1] How does this kind of obviously figuring it out as he goes along increase credibility with anyone? [0] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586104694421659648 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586104694421659648 [1] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589390597798125568 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589390597798125568
baby 4y ago
There’s good and bad. I for one am happy he decided to smoke that joint on joe rogan

by mjr00 4y ago

georgeg23 4y ago

Yes he needs to curry favors with Republicans to get the big DoD contracts for: https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Military_capabilities https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Military_capabilities

toss1 4y ago

Yes, I see that he wants to market to that not-quite-alt-right-but-not-neoliberal customer. I just do not see how any of his actions actually help enhance that even with even an idealized version of such a customer, and does not alienate even that customer. How does it establish any credibility with anyone to 1) be so unprepared for a critical advertiser's (your customers) presentation that customers literally cut their spend during the meeting; 2) publicly make excuses trying to blame for your failures on some "activist groups" who actually had no influence on advertisers' (your customers) decision to cut spending; 3) destroying verification and turning it into a anyone-can-pay-$8-to-say-they-are-anyone-and-get-greater-reach; 4) come into a $44B deal making a lot of noise and failing to articulate a plan, any plan that gets anyone on board?; etc., etc., etc. I wish Elon all the success in the world, but he is seriously flailing here, and creating confidence in no one. I expect that he has a good chance of sorting it out once he understands the issues, but he's clearly done no homework up front, so is figuring it out in real time. I do not see how this helps him, even with his ideal customer. Of course, as usual his comments have plenty of fanbois claiming whatever he does must be 4-D Chess, but seriously, how does this much public flailing, thrashing, and excuses give anyone confidence? Can you point to any specific action that would actually give such a customer more confidence? From what I've read, the RW people are also really pissed at him because they expected to be able to rush right in and raise hell, and that's not yet happening either... EDIT: A new case in point: "Comedy is now legal on Twitter" 5:16 PM · Oct 28, 2022 [0] "Going forward, any Twitter handles engaging in impersonation without clearly specifying “parody” will be permanently suspended" 5:53 PM · Nov 6, 2022 [1] How does this kind of obviously figuring it out as he goes along increase credibility with anyone? [0] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586104694421659648 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586104694421659648 [1] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589390597798125568 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589390597798125568

baby 4y ago

There’s good and bad. I for one am happy he decided to smoke that joint on joe rogan