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Right, most people aren't bothered by it or don't even hear it. I see a lot of complaints online, though, so there might be a market for whine-free equipment. I

by whyoh 4y ago

Right, most people aren't bothered by it or don't even hear it. I see a lot of complaints online, though, so there might be a market for whine-free equipment. It's quite annoying when you have to record some audio with sensitive mics. Even LED bulbs and PC monitors can emit audible noise.

brudgers 4y ago
It’s safe to assume that the viable market demand is already met by existing products. By ‘viable’ I mean that companies can charge enough to remain in business by catering to a market segment that is willing and able to pay for the differentiation at margins sufficient to maintain the boutique sales channels necessary for low volume specialty goods. Basically it is analogous to the audiophile market where discerning listeners are expected to pony up thousands of dollars on each piece of gear. That’s my take. YMMV.
- PaulHoule 4y ago
  My experience too is that you face a lot of gaslighting whenever you have non functional requirements. Back when the Athlon 64 was new I was very annoyed by noisy desktop computers and went through great expense and trouble to pick out quiet parts for a PC, frequently I found the reviews of quiet PC parts from sites like Tom’s Hardware were just plain wrong and that from the power supply to fans and hard drives I had to try multiple parts before I got something really quiet. I am thinking about building a new PC but I haven’t done it for years since I was so traumatized.
  - brudgers 4y ago
    Your experience is exactly what I am describing. Exacting customers imply boutique pricing, and even customers of relative means aren’t in thousands per component to get what they want market segment…I mean for sixty grand you can probably get someone to build the $2500 PC you want. A note on gaslighting: If Bob hears something and Alice doesn’t, it is normal for Alice to doubt Bob’s claims…though that isn’t ideal, it isn’t really gaslighting because when it comes to sound quality some. people can hear a difference in a demagnetized audio CD and others on gold plated conductors for digital audio. Without a relationship with some degree of intimacy, defaulting to the predominance of one’s own experience reinforced by the consensus of public opinions is not unreasonable. YMMV.
  - anonomousename 4y ago
    If you’re planning on building a PC soon - GamersNexus has reviews of fans with measured dB ratings (some taken in an Anechoic chamber) and compares heatsinks with noise normalized performance. It may be very useful for you. As a general guide though - SSDs are silent, and be quiet! (bequiet.com) has PSUs, CPU coolers, cases and fans optimized for silence (including coil whine)
rjh29 4y ago
If you record with a microphone you quickly realise just how noisy an untreated room is, even though your brain filters most of it out.

by whyoh 4y ago

brudgers 4y ago

It’s safe to assume that the viable market demand is already met by existing products. By ‘viable’ I mean that companies can charge enough to remain in business by catering to a market segment that is willing and able to pay for the differentiation at margins sufficient to maintain the boutique sales channels necessary for low volume specialty goods. Basically it is analogous to the audiophile market where discerning listeners are expected to pony up thousands of dollars on each piece of gear. That’s my take. YMMV.

PaulHoule 4y ago
My experience too is that you face a lot of gaslighting whenever you have non functional requirements. Back when the Athlon 64 was new I was very annoyed by noisy desktop computers and went through great expense and trouble to pick out quiet parts for a PC, frequently I found the reviews of quiet PC parts from sites like Tom’s Hardware were just plain wrong and that from the power supply to fans and hard drives I had to try multiple parts before I got something really quiet. I am thinking about building a new PC but I haven’t done it for years since I was so traumatized.
- brudgers 4y ago
  Your experience is exactly what I am describing. Exacting customers imply boutique pricing, and even customers of relative means aren’t in thousands per component to get what they want market segment…I mean for sixty grand you can probably get someone to build the $2500 PC you want. A note on gaslighting: If Bob hears something and Alice doesn’t, it is normal for Alice to doubt Bob’s claims…though that isn’t ideal, it isn’t really gaslighting because when it comes to sound quality some. people can hear a difference in a demagnetized audio CD and others on gold plated conductors for digital audio. Without a relationship with some degree of intimacy, defaulting to the predominance of one’s own experience reinforced by the consensus of public opinions is not unreasonable. YMMV.
- anonomousename 4y ago
  If you’re planning on building a PC soon - GamersNexus has reviews of fans with measured dB ratings (some taken in an Anechoic chamber) and compares heatsinks with noise normalized performance. It may be very useful for you. As a general guide though - SSDs are silent, and be quiet! (bequiet.com) has PSUs, CPU coolers, cases and fans optimized for silence (including coil whine)

rjh29 4y ago

If you record with a microphone you quickly realise just how noisy an untreated room is, even though your brain filters most of it out.