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Biden knows what I know: that it's too costly for the U.S. to disengage economically from China. He's trying to do something about it at least, but Apple has a

Biden knows what I know: that it's too costly for the U.S. to disengage economically from China. He's trying to do something about it at least, but Apple has already signaled that only 25% of iPhones will be made outside of China by 2025. That will leave the company completely vulnerable if were to be cut-off from its Chinese suppliers. I predict the company will simply go bankrupt if that were to happen. So he's bluffing to prevent China from invading, that's only logical. If push comes to shove, however, he'll pull back from the brink. Taiwan simply isn't worth fighting over, even if it would mean losing influence in Asia. And I've become convinced the Taiwanese will not fight their own kind, no matter how much they hate the Communists.

AnimalMuppet 4y ago
> Apple has already signaled that only 25% of iPhones will be made outside of China by 2025. That will leave the company completely vulnerable if were to be cut-off from its Chinese suppliers. I predict the company will simply go bankrupt if that were to happen. That's the second time you've made that claim, and it's just as implausible as it was the first time. Companies go bankrupt because of debt. Apple has approximately zero debt, and approximately one gazillion dollars of assets. Losing China's manufacturing would cripple Apple's income. Bankrupt them? No, that's not a logically plausible outcome. > And I've become convinced the Taiwanese will not fight their own kind, no matter how much they hate the Communists. That's the second time you've made that claim, too, with no more supporting evidence than you gave the first time. You're convinced? Great, it's good for you to know your own mind. But the rest of us care whether your claim corresponds to reality, and how convinced you are is not supporting data. Putin has claimed all along that Ukrainians were "their own kind", but the Ukrainians didn't see it that way...
- UltraViolence 4y ago
  Apple would lose its ability to produce and sell products if a complete boycott of China were to ensue. This would mean Apple's revenue and income would shrivel to almost zero overnight. Its stock valuation would drop 99% or more. There's no company that could survive such a financial shock. Yes, they have some money in the bank, but that won't save them.
  - AnimalMuppet 4y ago
    Baloney. It's revenue would drop almost to zero. It would stay there until Apple arranged alternate manufacturing, and then it would come back - probably not to where it currently is, because the alternate manufacturing would not initially have the same capacity. Stock dropping 99%? No way. Others can see that Apple has a way back, the same as I can. Look, it would be very damaging. I don't deny it. Bankruptcy, though? No. You're being an alarmist.
    - UltraViolence 4y ago
      I'm done arguing with you. We'll see who's right when things get hot.
CogitoCogito 4y ago
> So he's bluffing to prevent China from invading, that's only logical. If push comes to shove, however, he'll pull back from the brink. Taiwan simply isn't worth fighting over, even if it would mean losing influence in Asia. > And I've become convinced the Taiwanese will not fight their own kind, no matter how much they hate the Communists. Well I guess all we can do is wait and see if these predictions of yours come through.

AnimalMuppet 4y ago

> Apple has already signaled that only 25% of iPhones will be made outside of China by 2025. That will leave the company completely vulnerable if were to be cut-off from its Chinese suppliers. I predict the company will simply go bankrupt if that were to happen. That's the second time you've made that claim, and it's just as implausible as it was the first time. Companies go bankrupt because of debt. Apple has approximately zero debt, and approximately one gazillion dollars of assets. Losing China's manufacturing would cripple Apple's income. Bankrupt them? No, that's not a logically plausible outcome. > And I've become convinced the Taiwanese will not fight their own kind, no matter how much they hate the Communists. That's the second time you've made that claim, too, with no more supporting evidence than you gave the first time. You're convinced? Great, it's good for you to know your own mind. But the rest of us care whether your claim corresponds to reality, and how convinced you are is not supporting data. Putin has claimed all along that Ukrainians were "their own kind", but the Ukrainians didn't see it that way...

UltraViolence 4y ago
Apple would lose its ability to produce and sell products if a complete boycott of China were to ensue. This would mean Apple's revenue and income would shrivel to almost zero overnight. Its stock valuation would drop 99% or more. There's no company that could survive such a financial shock. Yes, they have some money in the bank, but that won't save them.
- AnimalMuppet 4y ago
  Baloney. It's revenue would drop almost to zero. It would stay there until Apple arranged alternate manufacturing, and then it would come back - probably not to where it currently is, because the alternate manufacturing would not initially have the same capacity. Stock dropping 99%? No way. Others can see that Apple has a way back, the same as I can. Look, it would be very damaging. I don't deny it. Bankruptcy, though? No. You're being an alarmist.
  - UltraViolence 4y ago
    I'm done arguing with you. We'll see who's right when things get hot.

CogitoCogito 4y ago

> So he's bluffing to prevent China from invading, that's only logical. If push comes to shove, however, he'll pull back from the brink. Taiwan simply isn't worth fighting over, even if it would mean losing influence in Asia. > And I've become convinced the Taiwanese will not fight their own kind, no matter how much they hate the Communists. Well I guess all we can do is wait and see if these predictions of yours come through.