I don't disagree, but the design of urbit is such that there's a path to it being good - that's not true of any other system built on the current stack (imo) be

I don't disagree, but the design of urbit is such that there's a path to it being good - that's not true of any other system built on the current stack (imo) because they don't fix the underlying incentive failures that lead to centralization in the first place.