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What's the alternative to driving a car? Walking 200 miles a day carrying 500kg of tools and equipment? What's the alternative to eating meat? Eating beans shi

What's the alternative to driving a car? Walking 200 miles a day carrying 500kg of tools and equipment? What's the alternative to eating meat? Eating beans shipped from halfway round the world?

paulcole 4y ago
Most people don’t drive 200 miles a day carrying 1000 pounds of tools and equipment. So don’t pretend like that’s normal. And if that does apply to you, then you should be encouraging everyone to drive less - it means less traffic for you. As for the meat, it’s pretty clear that eating less meat (and reducing demand for meat), is a net environmental gain, regardless of how far you ship the beans. You can also eat less meat, although I’m pretty sure there’s a reason you can’t do that either. Or you’re right about all this and there is no alternative.
- Gordonjcp 4y ago
  Why do you think eating less meat would be good? Most of the world isn't rolling Iowa cornfield, and mixed agriculture is how we get food. You can't just decide "oh, no need to raise cattle on that, I'm going to start growing acai berries and soy beans" because real life isn't Farmville.
  - paulcole 4y ago
    > Why do you think eating less meat would be good? Just a hunch. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/eating-less-red-meat-is-something-individuals-can-do-to-help-the-climate-crisis/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/eating-less-red-m... https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/21/climate/what-if-we-all-ate-a-bit-less-meat.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/21/climate/what-if-we-all-at... https://ourworld.unu.edu/en/eating-less-meat-essential-to-curb-climate-change-says-report https://ourworld.unu.edu/en/eating-less-meat-essential-to-cu... https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/cutting-red-meat-for-a-longer-life https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/cutting-red-m... You know there are vegetables other than corn and they can be grown in quite a few places outside of Iowa right?

What's the alternative to driving a car? Walking 200 miles a day carrying 500kg of tools and equipment? What's the alternative to eating meat? Eating beans shipped from halfway round the world?

paulcole 4y ago

Most people don’t drive 200 miles a day carrying 1000 pounds of tools and equipment. So don’t pretend like that’s normal. And if that does apply to you, then you should be encouraging everyone to drive less - it means less traffic for you. As for the meat, it’s pretty clear that eating less meat (and reducing demand for meat), is a net environmental gain, regardless of how far you ship the beans. You can also eat less meat, although I’m pretty sure there’s a reason you can’t do that either. Or you’re right about all this and there is no alternative.

Gordonjcp 4y ago
Why do you think eating less meat would be good? Most of the world isn't rolling Iowa cornfield, and mixed agriculture is how we get food. You can't just decide "oh, no need to raise cattle on that, I'm going to start growing acai berries and soy beans" because real life isn't Farmville.
- paulcole 4y ago
  > Why do you think eating less meat would be good? Just a hunch. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/eating-less-red-meat-is-something-individuals-can-do-to-help-the-climate-crisis/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/eating-less-red-m... https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/21/climate/what-if-we-all-ate-a-bit-less-meat.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/21/climate/what-if-we-all-at... https://ourworld.unu.edu/en/eating-less-meat-essential-to-curb-climate-change-says-report https://ourworld.unu.edu/en/eating-less-meat-essential-to-cu... https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/cutting-red-meat-for-a-longer-life https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/cutting-red-m... You know there are vegetables other than corn and they can be grown in quite a few places outside of Iowa right?