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Ah, but what happens when a deepfake video of that professional journalist starts going round saying 'today this presidential candidate said X, and I heard it m

Ah, but what happens when a deepfake video of that professional journalist starts going round saying 'today this presidential candidate said X, and I heard it myself' that matches the previous deepfake? I guess the counter (which I think you're pointing out) to that is to publish text to a known-trusted website rather than a video, but I wonder how many folks who get their "news" from TikTok would read it.

ricardonunez 4y ago
That’s when real verified accounts gain value but since now anybody can be verified, it is going to become a problem.
- necovek 4y ago
  Uhm, I am not sure I get the relationship: if anyone can get verified, that's only a win. By "verified", I assume Twitter has verified that their identity on Twitter matches their real life identity, and I don't see a problem with anyone having an ability to claim that. What's wrong with Jane Random being verified that she _is_ Jane Random? If people are basing their trust not on someone's identity and history, but on their celebrity (blue mark so far), that's where the problem is.
  - Hextinium 4y ago
    The problem arises where an account gets verified as one thing and then changes to become another, this happens all the time with trolls who can make/buy/extort verified accounts. They then spoof being the real person, and verification then means absolutely nothing cause they are functionally identical to a bypasser. By having verification be really hard to get, trolls have a lot harder time getting accounts and the problem is smaller in scope.
    - 3np 4y ago
      Allowing identity changes without requiring reverification to keep the "verified" status sounds like a problem with an obvious solution: Require revalidation, or remove the mark. Having initial validation accessible is not the issue here.
      - necovek 4y ago
        Exactly: I am totally perplexed at all the "see what verifying anyone will result in", instead of "your verification is broken" claims. It's like allowing verified emails to be changed to another address without reverifying. I mean, doh.

ricardonunez 4y ago

That’s when real verified accounts gain value but since now anybody can be verified, it is going to become a problem.

necovek 4y ago
Uhm, I am not sure I get the relationship: if anyone can get verified, that's only a win. By "verified", I assume Twitter has verified that their identity on Twitter matches their real life identity, and I don't see a problem with anyone having an ability to claim that. What's wrong with Jane Random being verified that she _is_ Jane Random? If people are basing their trust not on someone's identity and history, but on their celebrity (blue mark so far), that's where the problem is.
- Hextinium 4y ago
  The problem arises where an account gets verified as one thing and then changes to become another, this happens all the time with trolls who can make/buy/extort verified accounts. They then spoof being the real person, and verification then means absolutely nothing cause they are functionally identical to a bypasser. By having verification be really hard to get, trolls have a lot harder time getting accounts and the problem is smaller in scope.
  - 3np 4y ago
    Allowing identity changes without requiring reverification to keep the "verified" status sounds like a problem with an obvious solution: Require revalidation, or remove the mark. Having initial validation accessible is not the issue here.
    - necovek 4y ago
      Exactly: I am totally perplexed at all the "see what verifying anyone will result in", instead of "your verification is broken" claims. It's like allowing verified emails to be changed to another address without reverifying. I mean, doh.