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> After perusing the requirements and installation process Was that the original Mastodon? That does have a reputation of being faffy to install and resource-

> After perusing the requirements and installation process Was that the original Mastodon? That does have a reputation of being faffy to install and resource-hungry. Pleroma is much easier and less resource-hungry. Even I managed to spin up a Pleroma server without any trouble. > most likely any instance of moderate popularity is going to require a team. It'll need a team for coverage of moderation, support, perhaps 24/7 ops - but then anything with a lot of users will, surely?

cratermoon 4y ago
> Was that the original Mastodon? Likely. I didn't investigate alternative implementations. > It'll need a team for coverage of moderation, support, perhaps 24/7 ops - but then anything with a lot of users will, surely? I'm under the impression that the claims of Mastodon include "self-moderation" and, because of its supposed decentralization, 24/7 uptime is not needed for any one instance. I have been imagining it like torrents, where no single node matters. Once the initial seeding is complete, the content lives across many instances. If it's not like that, then claims for its decentralization are highly overblown.
- zimpenfish 4y ago
  > I'm under the impression that the claims of Mastodon include "self-moderation" That's "the instances moderate themselves", really, not "the users moderate themselves". With large numbers of users, you'll need assigned moderators. > because of its supposed decentralization, 24/7 uptime is not needed for any one instance Not sure where you've got that idea - decentralisation just means that I can talk to other instances from mine. But if mine is down, I can't log into another one with my account details and carry on Just Like That. > If it's not like that, then claims for its decentralization are highly overblown. If you're understanding "decentralised" to mean "seeded like a torrent", yeah, it'll seem highly overblown but at the same time it'd be very wrong.
  - cratermoon 4y ago
    That's not really "decentralized", that's "distributed". Those are two different topologies.

cratermoon 4y ago

> Was that the original Mastodon? Likely. I didn't investigate alternative implementations. > It'll need a team for coverage of moderation, support, perhaps 24/7 ops - but then anything with a lot of users will, surely? I'm under the impression that the claims of Mastodon include "self-moderation" and, because of its supposed decentralization, 24/7 uptime is not needed for any one instance. I have been imagining it like torrents, where no single node matters. Once the initial seeding is complete, the content lives across many instances. If it's not like that, then claims for its decentralization are highly overblown.

zimpenfish 4y ago
> I'm under the impression that the claims of Mastodon include "self-moderation" That's "the instances moderate themselves", really, not "the users moderate themselves". With large numbers of users, you'll need assigned moderators. > because of its supposed decentralization, 24/7 uptime is not needed for any one instance Not sure where you've got that idea - decentralisation just means that I can talk to other instances from mine. But if mine is down, I can't log into another one with my account details and carry on Just Like That. > If it's not like that, then claims for its decentralization are highly overblown. If you're understanding "decentralised" to mean "seeded like a torrent", yeah, it'll seem highly overblown but at the same time it'd be very wrong.
- cratermoon 4y ago
  That's not really "decentralized", that's "distributed". Those are two different topologies.