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He stated his true plans privately, these comms were unveiled by the discovery process from the Twitter lawsuit. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33475
by metadat 4y ago
He stated his true plans privately, these comms were unveiled by the discovery process from the Twitter lawsuit.
See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33475031 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33475031 for more details and sources.
p.s. thanks to Dan Luu for putting it all online!
- Robotbeat 4y agoThat actually seems… pretty reasonable and probably a net good? Why are people so mad about this? The Twitter status quo seems incredibly toxic.
- metadat 4y agoMaybe, it's still too early to discern what the end state will be. I feel disdain for the dishonesty and poor treatment of / regard for human beings in his sphere, though. So far it's a case study demonstration of poor and uninspiring leadership.
- tomrod 4y agoJack Dorsey seems to be describing Mastodon, unless I misunderstand.
- bergenty 4y agoThere’s a lot of incredibly racist commentary now. The toxicity is at a whole other level at this point.
- Robotbeat 4y agoThe content moderation policy hasn’t changed. I mean, I guess some far right folk think Elon’s their man. They’re sorely mistaken (as can be seen by the outrage/despair of Nazis when Elon said he’s talking with ADL representatives).
- bergenty 4y agoHopefully. Elon never felt like a racist to me plus he’s been my hero for a very long time so I hope I don’t have to start disliking him.
- kevin_thibedeau 4y agoHeroes don't generally make libelous pedo accusations against people who are trying to do good things.
- bergenty 4y agoI’m willing to overlook all that. My worldview gives self made successful men a LOT of leeway before I care.
- kevin_thibedeau 4y agoThat's a pretty broken philosophy.
- mcv 4y agoLots of people seem to want to see Elon (or any famous person) as either a hero or a villain, but the reality is that most people are a bit of both. They do both good and bad. I appreciate Musk for making electric cars sexy, making space flight cheaper and less wasteful, and making lots of solar panels. I don't like him picking stupid internet fights or occasionally going mad with power. It's a mix.
- Robotbeat 4y ago90% of the stupid stuff that Elon has done (that we know about) comes from his interactions on the toxic social media platform, Twitter. He’d be better off deleting his Twitter account and moving to Mastodon. Or just off social media altogether.
- Karunamon 4y agoNothing even remotely objectionable there? It's no secret that twitter has been a money-losing toxic cesspit for years. Making the moderation fair and transparent will go miles all on its own.
- themitigating 4y agoHow was the moderation unfair?
- Karunamon 4y agoAllowed to tweet things that are objectively against the rules if they politically lean a certain way. Outsized attention given to harmless shitposting at Hollywood actors while Iranian terrorists are allowed to post propaganda unchecked despite reports. Selective application of rules against things like "hacked content" used against certain politicians and organizations with certain political leanings but not others (in one case leading to the censorship of a .gov domain even over direct messages). Verification badges issued to nobody journalists and sometimes for monetary compensation in contravention of their stated policy. The existence of shadow banning which was lied about in Congress before leaked screenshots of the backend tools showed that multiple kinds of shadow bans exist. Manual manipulation of the ostensibly algorithmic trending list. It is hard for me to even imagine a way in which Twitter's moderation could possibly be any less fair or transparent.
- themitigating 4y agoDo you have proof of this?
- Karunamon 4y agoI sure do. One day I might write up a full article on it, but this is the summary you asked for. In the meantime I would ask you to remember that HN is not a journal, a debate stage, or an encyclopedia article, instead it is an informal discussion on the internet. As such, participants are allowed to recount things from memory.
- tablespoon 4y agoWho is that "Jason C"? Also, further down in the chat log there's this: > [redacted]: Hey Elon -my name is Jake Sherman. I'm a reporter with Punchbowl News in Washington I cover Congress. Wonder if you're game to talk about how Twitter would change for politics if you were at the helm? What's with the [redacted]? Does Musk give journalists insulting names in his contact list?
- metadat 4y agoJason Calacanis, a wealthy VC friend to elon. Check out the clickable link sources, it's interesting to see how cavalier billionaires are in their private life, the "hard work" consists of mostly just scheming. Not even data-driven in this case, only napkin math: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33475152 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33475152
- random314 4y agoJason Calcanis always had the worst ideas. Classic example of failing upwards. I remember Jason's mahalo which was supposedly a "human powered" search engine which would out compete flawed algorithmic search of Google. Mahalo eventually became a spam content generator for SEO. I think he was a tech journalist who failed upwards into becoming a VC. Which reminds me- what is parislemon up to?
- neilv 4y agoI didn't read the whole thing, but my favorite part was: > Jason: Day zero > Jason: Sharpen your blades boys [dagger emoji] > Jason: 2 day a week Office requirement= 20% voluntary departures
- numbsafari 4y agoIf he wasn’t in the contact list, perhaps that is his phone number.