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I tried Googling for an official report or investigation but I couldn’t find one. Do you know if any of these multiple governments issued one?

by xtian 4y ago

ch4s3 4y ago
Astro physicist Johnathan McDowell[1] was tracking it. I doubt the Cotes d'Ivoire did an official investigation due to their general lack of funds, and China denies that the Long March can even reenter the atmosphere so they didn't go check it out. Here's another story that references local reports[2]. An article from Ars quoting the US Space Force confirming entry over the Atlantic headed toward Cotes d'Ivoire[3]. What more do you want? [1] https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/1260222397350887425 https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/1260222397350887425 [2] https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/13/21256484/china-rocket-debris-africa-uncontrolled-reentry-long-march-5b https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/13/21256484/china-rocket-deb... [3] https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/large-chunks-of-a-chinese-rocket-missed-new-york-city-by-about-15-minutes/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/large-chunks-of-a-ch...
- xtian 4y ago
  Just anything more conclusive than social media posts. An actual investigation into these reports and purported debris fragments. According to Wikipedia, Cotes d'Ivoire is one of the largest economies in West Africa, representing 40% of the total GDP of the Economic Community of West African States.
  - ch4s3 4y ago
    There are numerous scientists and government agencies on the record making official press releases claiming to have tracked the rocket debris to an area of Cotes d'Ivoire. There are photos in Cotes d'Ivoire of wreckage consistent with the rocket. Why do you need an "official investigation"? Who would you trust to do that? Why are you taking the word of the Chinese government?
    - MichaelZuo 4y ago
      The Verge article links to a 'local news site' afriksoir.net that looks really shady, similar to clickbait spam sites. Registered on April 9th, 2019 with GoDaddy according to WHOIS. It's top story today is just commenting on some Ivorian politican's Twitter feed https://afriksoir.net/lobognon-junte-goita-integrite-mali-journaliste-malick-konate-cible/ https://afriksoir.net/lobognon-junte-goita-integrite-mali-jo... And it's not linked to any established West African news organization. This took me about 10 minutes of digging to uncover. So if Verge thinks this is a credible source that really speaks volumes.
      - ch4s3 4y ago
        Oh please, numerous scientists and governments tracked the Rocket debris going down over Cotes d’Ivoire. It landed somewhere there for sure. Analysts think the photo is credible. The preponderance of evidence points in a clear direction, we’re not trying to convict someone of murder here. What do you think fell in Cotes d’Ivoire? What level of proof would be sufficient? Why are you so willing to believe the CCO line here? How have they demonstrated evidence to the contrary? If it burned up in reentry surely they have proof no? Where’s there investigation?
        MichaelZuo 4y ago
        You seemed to have entirely ignored my comment? The fact is that this shady site was linked as a source, and it's in fact the first external link in a decently long article.
        ch4s3 4y ago
        I hardly matters that the local reporting from the village isn't very good. The rocket is KNOWN to have gone down in that part of Cote d'Ivoire which you are willfully ignoring. What is more likely, that part of the rocket did land on the edge of that village in line with it's known ballistic trajectory or that it's fake and a bunch of scientists, governments, and groups watching objects in orbit are all part of a conspiracy? You're engaged in gish gallop jumping form one unrelated small critique to the next while ignoring that we know the rocket didn't burn up and a hunk of it did land in Cote d'Ivoire. We know China lied about it burning up on reentry. Why are you ignoring all of that? Why are you carrying water for the CCP on this?

I tried Googling for an official report or investigation but I couldn’t find one. Do you know if any of these multiple governments issued one?

by xtian 4y ago

I tried Googling for an official report or investigation but I couldn’t find one. Do you know if any of these multiple governments issued one?

ch4s3 4y ago

Astro physicist Johnathan McDowell[1] was tracking it. I doubt the Cotes d'Ivoire did an official investigation due to their general lack of funds, and China denies that the Long March can even reenter the atmosphere so they didn't go check it out. Here's another story that references local reports[2]. An article from Ars quoting the US Space Force confirming entry over the Atlantic headed toward Cotes d'Ivoire[3]. What more do you want? [1] https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/1260222397350887425 https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/1260222397350887425 [2] https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/13/21256484/china-rocket-debris-africa-uncontrolled-reentry-long-march-5b https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/13/21256484/china-rocket-deb... [3] https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/large-chunks-of-a-chinese-rocket-missed-new-york-city-by-about-15-minutes/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/large-chunks-of-a-ch...

xtian 4y ago
Just anything more conclusive than social media posts. An actual investigation into these reports and purported debris fragments. According to Wikipedia, Cotes d'Ivoire is one of the largest economies in West Africa, representing 40% of the total GDP of the Economic Community of West African States.
- ch4s3 4y ago
  There are numerous scientists and government agencies on the record making official press releases claiming to have tracked the rocket debris to an area of Cotes d'Ivoire. There are photos in Cotes d'Ivoire of wreckage consistent with the rocket. Why do you need an "official investigation"? Who would you trust to do that? Why are you taking the word of the Chinese government?
  - MichaelZuo 4y ago
    The Verge article links to a 'local news site' afriksoir.net that looks really shady, similar to clickbait spam sites. Registered on April 9th, 2019 with GoDaddy according to WHOIS. It's top story today is just commenting on some Ivorian politican's Twitter feed https://afriksoir.net/lobognon-junte-goita-integrite-mali-journaliste-malick-konate-cible/ https://afriksoir.net/lobognon-junte-goita-integrite-mali-jo... And it's not linked to any established West African news organization. This took me about 10 minutes of digging to uncover. So if Verge thinks this is a credible source that really speaks volumes.
    - ch4s3 4y ago
      Oh please, numerous scientists and governments tracked the Rocket debris going down over Cotes d’Ivoire. It landed somewhere there for sure. Analysts think the photo is credible. The preponderance of evidence points in a clear direction, we’re not trying to convict someone of murder here. What do you think fell in Cotes d’Ivoire? What level of proof would be sufficient? Why are you so willing to believe the CCO line here? How have they demonstrated evidence to the contrary? If it burned up in reentry surely they have proof no? Where’s there investigation?
      - MichaelZuo 4y ago
        You seemed to have entirely ignored my comment? The fact is that this shady site was linked as a source, and it's in fact the first external link in a decently long article.
        ch4s3 4y ago
        I hardly matters that the local reporting from the village isn't very good. The rocket is KNOWN to have gone down in that part of Cote d'Ivoire which you are willfully ignoring. What is more likely, that part of the rocket did land on the edge of that village in line with it's known ballistic trajectory or that it's fake and a bunch of scientists, governments, and groups watching objects in orbit are all part of a conspiracy? You're engaged in gish gallop jumping form one unrelated small critique to the next while ignoring that we know the rocket didn't burn up and a hunk of it did land in Cote d'Ivoire. We know China lied about it burning up on reentry. Why are you ignoring all of that? Why are you carrying water for the CCP on this?