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There was extreme optimism, and (pretty much) everyone thought the internet was going to solve the particular problems they cared/obsessed over. Most commonly:

There was extreme optimism, and (pretty much) everyone thought the internet was going to solve the particular problems they cared/obsessed over. Most commonly: now everyone is going to agree with me and governments will do what I want them to do. But also generally there was a belief that everyone was going to be smarter, more capable and productive and society would accelerate advancement dramatically.

lob_it 4y ago
Nick burns would disagree :) https://youtu.be/25J3u3P-HHg https://youtu.be/25J3u3P-HHg Technology natives skipped social to enjoy innovation without the emotional fodder. They were left on their own with nobody to coddle them. Its 2022.. Illiteracy is obvious
tgv 4y ago
I wouldn't say everyone, but there was a vocal, idealistic minority that had high hopes, that's true. > But also generally there was a belief that everyone was going to be smarter That still gets regurgitated: "Gen Z -> technology -> smarter." Utter bollocks, of course.
- fullshark 4y ago
  We aren't smarter for sure but we're less ignorant i'd say, if ignorance = unawareness of random facts (e.g. the weather, how old some actor is, if a store is open) now that we have devices capable of retrieving those facts at any time in our pockets. What to do with those facts, what facts actually matter, and what do they actually mean in the context of solving problems? Who knows really...
  - tgv 4y ago
    Would we (I'm of an older generation) have been less ignorant if I'd been carrying a pocket encyclopedia with me? Doesn't seem the appropriate word. > if a store is open Well, you don't need to tell if you plan ahead. That's how it used to be. Shops here opened from 9 to 6, except on Saturday (shorter), and never on a Sunday. There simply was no reason to look up opening hours. And if you needed something after 6, you had bad luck, or you asked the neighbours. I don't think your examples work well, especially when you add in that there are actual flat-earthers around: not because it's Gen Z, but because of that handy device.
    - fullshark 4y ago
      I'm sure there's information that you appreciate being at your fingertips that wasn't there before. I think we've taken for granted really how easy it is now to access information, and how annoying/difficult it used to be, and the consequences of that, many of which are clearly positive. It's just now we're at the stage where we are starting to be a bit more critical instead of jubilant about it.
      - tgv 4y ago
        There are some advantages, accompanied by large disadvantages, and I don't think it has made us smarter or less ignorant.

lob_it 4y ago

Nick burns would disagree :) https://youtu.be/25J3u3P-HHg https://youtu.be/25J3u3P-HHg Technology natives skipped social to enjoy innovation without the emotional fodder. They were left on their own with nobody to coddle them. Its 2022.. Illiteracy is obvious

tgv 4y ago

I wouldn't say everyone, but there was a vocal, idealistic minority that had high hopes, that's true. > But also generally there was a belief that everyone was going to be smarter That still gets regurgitated: "Gen Z -> technology -> smarter." Utter bollocks, of course.

fullshark 4y ago
We aren't smarter for sure but we're less ignorant i'd say, if ignorance = unawareness of random facts (e.g. the weather, how old some actor is, if a store is open) now that we have devices capable of retrieving those facts at any time in our pockets. What to do with those facts, what facts actually matter, and what do they actually mean in the context of solving problems? Who knows really...
- tgv 4y ago
  Would we (I'm of an older generation) have been less ignorant if I'd been carrying a pocket encyclopedia with me? Doesn't seem the appropriate word. > if a store is open Well, you don't need to tell if you plan ahead. That's how it used to be. Shops here opened from 9 to 6, except on Saturday (shorter), and never on a Sunday. There simply was no reason to look up opening hours. And if you needed something after 6, you had bad luck, or you asked the neighbours. I don't think your examples work well, especially when you add in that there are actual flat-earthers around: not because it's Gen Z, but because of that handy device.
  - fullshark 4y ago
    I'm sure there's information that you appreciate being at your fingertips that wasn't there before. I think we've taken for granted really how easy it is now to access information, and how annoying/difficult it used to be, and the consequences of that, many of which are clearly positive. It's just now we're at the stage where we are starting to be a bit more critical instead of jubilant about it.
    - tgv 4y ago
      There are some advantages, accompanied by large disadvantages, and I don't think it has made us smarter or less ignorant.