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I cut out alcohol a year and change ago. I was starting to get bad heartburn and I wasn't bouncing back the next day like I used to. Not just physically but e

by treis 4y ago

I cut out alcohol a year and change ago. I was starting to get bad heartburn and I wasn't bouncing back the next day like I used to. Not just physically but emotionally. Kind of a dead to the world/not firing on all cylinders sort of thing. Even with essentially a 1:1 replacement of alcohol with weed I feel much better. I don't have the heartburn I did and even if I get super stoned on night I wake up normal the next morning. It's just kind of obvious in retrospect. Alcohol is a substance that will kill you if taken in a dose 2-4 times what people drink. Not shocking that those sub-lethal doses have side effects.

bergenty 4y ago
Alcohol is bad. But smoking weed on a daily basis was worse for me. After a good while a sense of general anxiety settles in, you’re dumber, head is always in a fog. I’d much rather moderately have alcohol. Weed is great if you don’t have anything to do and can just hang out in life though. Weed in moderation is probably the best but it’s hard for me to smoke weed only a couple of times a month. It’s all or nothing.
- bitxbitxbitcoin 4y ago
  To each their own! I would much rather moderately have weed.
- starkd 4y ago
  It tends to make you stupid, and seriously degrades short-term memory after prolonged use.
  - whimsicalism 4y ago
    I think all of those things have really only been shown for continued prolonged use, ie. not after cessation for a few months.
- Synaesthesia 4y ago
  I agree that smoking weed is harmful, my addiction is causing me quite a lot of mental issues, but if I had to compare it to heavy alcoholism, it's night and day ...
  - bergenty 4y ago
    Definitely no comparison to alcoholism. But even having two drinks a day works for me over having any amount of pot everyday.
    - toomuchtodo 4y ago
      Be mindful of your liver enzyme test results at your annual physical (as part of a metabolic panel). That’ll give you an indicator that you’re exceeding the budget of your liver and headed towards cirrhosis (which you most definitely don’t want). Your doctor may also order an ultrasound. Have it done if ordered. (not medical advice, talk to your doctor)
    - Synaesthesia 4y ago
      I think for infrequent users it is a very strong drug, but when you use it all the time it doesn't do much.
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pclmulqdq 4y ago
Someone I know replaced alcohol with THC edibles recently and had the same experience. She loves it. For the rest of us looking in, she has become more irritable, anxious, and depressed when she doesn't have the drug, and has become effectively dependent on it to socialize. There was also one study I saw that attributed an 8-10 point IQ drop with long-term weed use. The effects of weed on your body are a lot less noticeable to you, but they do exist and are harmful for you over the long term. The systems that weed targets (particularly your long-term reward and habit forming systems) are not the same as other drugs, but they change in response to the drug nonetheless.
- yieldcrv 4y ago
  There are definitely a lot of people whose “casual” weed use is uncomfortable and not fun One day we will be able to call them out the same way we do to alcoholics Right now there is a hysteria towards people that are prohibitionists, and anyone pointing out moderation is overfitted into prohibitionist
  - longhairedhippy 4y ago
    So this is total anecdata but I have never been assaulted by someone that was stoned, and never seen someone become sexually aggressive or belligerent when stoned. I'm sure they exist, however those type of folks seem to be much less frequent that people who exhibit this behavior when drunk on alcohol. I think it really comes down to the fact that weed was originally made illegal through disinformation and policies motivated by racial discrimination, when in reality it is at absolute worst, just as bad as alcohol. We need to stop policing people from themselves, especially when it is so hypocritical because of the massive alcohol and tobacco industries. Why do we need to keep wasting money on this?
    - yieldcrv 4y ago
      I think your response is based on assuming what I would advocate for regarding moderation Just like with alcohol its not a role of the government to say “thats too much, get help”. We can absolutely shame people into moderation, just like we shame people into limiting drinking till after 5pm, with limited discretionary exceptions. People are worried about breaking those social conventions at work functions, they’re worried breaking them socially, they’re worried about doing it by themselves knowing the cautionary tales of those who normalize the behavior. We can maintain that peer based moderation with regard to weed consumption, and right now we don't have those conventions at all. Its all or nothing at the moment, where most people can read the room and use discretion, other people are getting high the same as people would take multiple daily coffee breaks, alongside coffee in the morning, and other intervals. A mental security blanket they think helps them with X, Y, Z while the rest of us see a degraded stupid human that is missing stimuli for a good chunk of time, and then making silly decisions after.
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by treis 4y ago

bergenty 4y ago

Alcohol is bad. But smoking weed on a daily basis was worse for me. After a good while a sense of general anxiety settles in, you’re dumber, head is always in a fog. I’d much rather moderately have alcohol. Weed is great if you don’t have anything to do and can just hang out in life though. Weed in moderation is probably the best but it’s hard for me to smoke weed only a couple of times a month. It’s all or nothing.

bitxbitxbitcoin 4y ago
To each their own! I would much rather moderately have weed.
starkd 4y ago
It tends to make you stupid, and seriously degrades short-term memory after prolonged use.
- whimsicalism 4y ago
  I think all of those things have really only been shown for continued prolonged use, ie. not after cessation for a few months.
Synaesthesia 4y ago
I agree that smoking weed is harmful, my addiction is causing me quite a lot of mental issues, but if I had to compare it to heavy alcoholism, it's night and day ...
- bergenty 4y ago
  Definitely no comparison to alcoholism. But even having two drinks a day works for me over having any amount of pot everyday.
  - toomuchtodo 4y ago
    Be mindful of your liver enzyme test results at your annual physical (as part of a metabolic panel). That’ll give you an indicator that you’re exceeding the budget of your liver and headed towards cirrhosis (which you most definitely don’t want). Your doctor may also order an ultrasound. Have it done if ordered. (not medical advice, talk to your doctor)
  - Synaesthesia 4y ago
    I think for infrequent users it is a very strong drug, but when you use it all the time it doesn't do much.

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pclmulqdq 4y ago

Someone I know replaced alcohol with THC edibles recently and had the same experience. She loves it. For the rest of us looking in, she has become more irritable, anxious, and depressed when she doesn't have the drug, and has become effectively dependent on it to socialize. There was also one study I saw that attributed an 8-10 point IQ drop with long-term weed use. The effects of weed on your body are a lot less noticeable to you, but they do exist and are harmful for you over the long term. The systems that weed targets (particularly your long-term reward and habit forming systems) are not the same as other drugs, but they change in response to the drug nonetheless.

yieldcrv 4y ago
There are definitely a lot of people whose “casual” weed use is uncomfortable and not fun One day we will be able to call them out the same way we do to alcoholics Right now there is a hysteria towards people that are prohibitionists, and anyone pointing out moderation is overfitted into prohibitionist
- longhairedhippy 4y ago
  So this is total anecdata but I have never been assaulted by someone that was stoned, and never seen someone become sexually aggressive or belligerent when stoned. I'm sure they exist, however those type of folks seem to be much less frequent that people who exhibit this behavior when drunk on alcohol. I think it really comes down to the fact that weed was originally made illegal through disinformation and policies motivated by racial discrimination, when in reality it is at absolute worst, just as bad as alcohol. We need to stop policing people from themselves, especially when it is so hypocritical because of the massive alcohol and tobacco industries. Why do we need to keep wasting money on this?
  - yieldcrv 4y ago
    I think your response is based on assuming what I would advocate for regarding moderation Just like with alcohol its not a role of the government to say “thats too much, get help”. We can absolutely shame people into moderation, just like we shame people into limiting drinking till after 5pm, with limited discretionary exceptions. People are worried about breaking those social conventions at work functions, they’re worried breaking them socially, they’re worried about doing it by themselves knowing the cautionary tales of those who normalize the behavior. We can maintain that peer based moderation with regard to weed consumption, and right now we don't have those conventions at all. Its all or nothing at the moment, where most people can read the room and use discretion, other people are getting high the same as people would take multiple daily coffee breaks, alongside coffee in the morning, and other intervals. A mental security blanket they think helps them with X, Y, Z while the rest of us see a degraded stupid human that is missing stimuli for a good chunk of time, and then making silly decisions after.

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