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From what? Russia is not planning to invade the EU.
by lizardactivist 4y ago
From what? Russia is not planning to invade the EU.
- fazfq 4y agoWhoa did you just deny a CIA narrative?
- lizardactivist 4y agoI'm daring like that.
- gwnywg 4y agoIt depends which corridor you are standing, there are many who believe Russia is about to send their troops to invade Poland. Reality to many is still what is told on TV, and TV in Poland is far from being objective or promoting proper public debate, they instead push narratives that increase emotions..
- akudha 4y agothey instead push narratives that increase emotions Isn’t this the default mode of operation for the media? Are there any countries (Nordic?) where most of the media isn’t corrupt, fear mongering, clickbaity etc?
- mistrial9 4y ago"Push narratives that increase emotions" instead of "objective or promoting proper public debate" this is absolutely what I see in the USA .. all year
- luckylion 4y agoAt least officially. But then again, they officially also didn't plan to conquer Kiev or exterminate Ukrainians. There's a reason why Russia's neighbors are suddenly eager to join NATO or increase military readiness.
- lizardactivist 4y agoBut we knew since more than 8 years ago that Russia's hand would be forced when it comes to Ukraine. You can't say the same about Poland or any other country in the EU for that matter.
- luckylion 4y agoSure you can, and they will, once they feel ready for the next war to expand their empire after you've given them Ukraine. Appeasing expansionist fascists never works. Europeans had started to forget that lesson (Western Europe more so than Eastern Europe, whose memory was much fresher), but they're rapidly relearning it.
- ktrzanx 4y agoThis is demonstrably wrong: Finland appeased Stalin in the Winter War, gave up small territories and preserved the rest of its territorial integrity until today.
- luckylion 4y ago> created: 6 minutes ago Meh, guess HN needs additional rules against throwaway spam. Finland gave Stalin a bloody nose in the Winter War, and then negotiated a peace treaty. That's not what appeasement is, that's warfare, that's why it's called the Winter War, not the Winter Appeasement. Appeasement is the idea that you let the criminals take over your neighbors house and hope they won't want to take over your house next.
- foverzar 4y agoThis is stupid. Clearly, someone decided to call it "appeasement" just to be snarky and it just sticked. What is the purpose of playing dumb and arguing semantics of a purposly snarky choice of words?
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- gonzo41 4y agoConsidering history and it's geography. Poland being prepared against invasion is a prudent move.
- ekidd 4y agoRussia's government officials have vaguely threatened nuclear war against multiple European countries this year alone. NATO is standing together for now, but some major political parties in key NATO members have connections to Russia. Russia also loudly denied any plans to invade Ukraine until they rolled across the border. And they've been repeatedly caught committing barbaric atrocities against civilians in occupied territories. So if the Poles want to sign up for military training, then more power to them. Being willing to defend your loved ones and your country is a noble endeavor. You don't even need a specific reason. And if the Poles want the ability to defend themselves without being utterly reliant on their NATO allies, that's their right.
- mistrial9 4y agoUSA here, filled with ridiculous information each day from the mass media news. Please do not repeat this escalation talk about nuclear threats. I was reading some news site in German and saw the day that a "threat" was made.. by the Prime Minister of Turkmenistan or someone similar. It is a "brain off" meme and an escalation. End This War, not Endless War
- scrose 4y agoRussian news has been talking about nuking ‘the West’s decision-making centers’ for the last 2 months and publicizing different ‘attack plans’ to take over the Baltic states and move west. While it’s likely just posturing, to say it’s western news making stuff up is just silly.
- mistrial9 4y agowhat news? in the USA we cannot see any of that.. maybe they have media that encourages war talk.. End this War please
- scrose 4y agoI can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic at this point, but yes, you can in fact see Russian news in the USA. There are plenty of places(ie. Reddit) where people also add English subtitles for non-Russian speakers.
- therouwboat 4y agoInvasion is such a dirty word, maybe they "free" some countries from EU.
- jcranmer 4y agoIf you wait until you are actually being invaded to start preparing for it, you're gonna have a bad time. It takes about 6-9 months to properly train a new soldier, so you need to start planning for a cadre of soldiers well in advance of any actual invasion. Honestly, even waiting until the first rumblings of a possible invasion seems to start preparing contingency plans is too late, because once the rumbling start, people will complain that anything that visibly attempts to resist it is "too provocative."
- exabrial 4y agoSource?
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