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This is great, it shows one of the strengths of the Fediverse. Official bodies can participate in social media without being dependent on a foreign, for-profit

by emaro 4y ago

This is great, it shows one of the strengths of the Fediverse. Official bodies can participate in social media without being dependent on a foreign, for-profit company. And you can read updates with a lot of different applications, be it Mastodon, Pleroma or the RSS reader of your choice.

philjohn 4y ago
And the journalist issue is solved by media companies having official servers under their domain.
- blitzar 4y ago
  This is exactly how the federated "twitter" should work.
  - luciusdomitius 4y ago
    This is what Dorsey and Musk discussed in private according to court documents[0]. <jack jack>: “I believe it must be an open source protocol, funded by a foundation of sorts that doesn’t own the protocol, only advances it. A bit like what Signal has done. It can’t have an advertising model.” 0.https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/now-twitter-belongs-elon-here-what-he-will-do-platform-his-own-words https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/now-twitter-belongs-elon-h...
    - rhn_mk1 4y ago
      With Signal given as an example, I don't think your conclusion is right. Signal is famous for disallowing federation in the network they own. (I'm guessing that there's no provision for federation in the Signal protocol for that reason, either.)
      - dane-pgp 4y ago
        Signal is equally (in)famous for using this lack of federation to then force advertising for its cryptocoin into all of its clients: https://www.osnews.com/story/133275/signal-embeds-shady-cryptocurrency-in-its-service/ https://www.osnews.com/story/133275/signal-embeds-shady-cryp...
        throwoutway 4y ago
        Did they bundle it or abandon that idea? I don’t see it in the app
        dane-pgp 4y ago
        It's still mentioned in their docs as the only supported cryptocurrency: https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360057625692-In-app-Payments#payments_which_ones https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360057625692-In...
    - woojoo666 4y ago
      Though of course, Jack Dorsey doesn't want to build on an existing protocol (like activitypub) and instead is rolling out his own (https://atproto.com https://atproto.com)
      - girvo 4y ago
        As someone who talks to Simcom and other modems all day, calling it the “AT Protocol” leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Totally unimportant of course!
rambambram 4y ago
I was able to read a feed by following https://social.network.europa.eu/@EU_Commission https://social.network.europa.eu/@EU_Commission for example. So the @user is mandatory to reach a feed. You probably know this already, but for who doesn't and wants to follow updates by RSS.
seydor 4y ago
nobody knows this
- ceejayoz 4y ago
  That's a fixable problem.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - seydor 4y ago
    not really
- berkes 4y ago
  I knew it. I'm not nobody. Sorry for pointing out, but such absolutists statements are easily debunked with a single 'black swan'.
  - seydor 4y ago
    - rmedranollamas 4y ago
      I know it too, thanks.
  - CharlesW 4y ago
    > Sorry for pointing out, but such absolutists statements are easily debunked with a single 'black swan'. The parent commenter was making a generalization, like "all birds have wings". The discoverability problem is a legitimate point. If we allow the colloquial English for a moment, it'd be interesting to hear informed opinions on how that can be solved.
    - peoplefromibiza 4y ago

by emaro 4y ago

philjohn 4y ago

And the journalist issue is solved by media companies having official servers under their domain.

blitzar 4y ago
This is exactly how the federated "twitter" should work.
- luciusdomitius 4y ago
  This is what Dorsey and Musk discussed in private according to court documents[0]. <jack jack>: “I believe it must be an open source protocol, funded by a foundation of sorts that doesn’t own the protocol, only advances it. A bit like what Signal has done. It can’t have an advertising model.” 0.https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/now-twitter-belongs-elon-here-what-he-will-do-platform-his-own-words https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/now-twitter-belongs-elon-h...
  - rhn_mk1 4y ago
    With Signal given as an example, I don't think your conclusion is right. Signal is famous for disallowing federation in the network they own. (I'm guessing that there's no provision for federation in the Signal protocol for that reason, either.)
    - dane-pgp 4y ago
      Signal is equally (in)famous for using this lack of federation to then force advertising for its cryptocoin into all of its clients: https://www.osnews.com/story/133275/signal-embeds-shady-cryptocurrency-in-its-service/ https://www.osnews.com/story/133275/signal-embeds-shady-cryp...
      - throwoutway 4y ago
        Did they bundle it or abandon that idea? I don’t see it in the app
        dane-pgp 4y ago
        It's still mentioned in their docs as the only supported cryptocurrency: https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360057625692-In-app-Payments#payments_which_ones https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360057625692-In...
  - woojoo666 4y ago
    Though of course, Jack Dorsey doesn't want to build on an existing protocol (like activitypub) and instead is rolling out his own (https://atproto.com https://atproto.com)
    - girvo 4y ago
      As someone who talks to Simcom and other modems all day, calling it the “AT Protocol” leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Totally unimportant of course!

rambambram 4y ago

I was able to read a feed by following https://social.network.europa.eu/@EU_Commission https://social.network.europa.eu/@EU_Commission for example. So the @user is mandatory to reach a feed. You probably know this already, but for who doesn't and wants to follow updates by RSS.

seydor 4y ago

nobody knows this

ceejayoz 4y ago
That's a fixable problem.
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- seydor 4y ago
  not really
berkes 4y ago
I knew it. I'm not nobody. Sorry for pointing out, but such absolutists statements are easily debunked with a single 'black swan'.
- seydor 4y ago
  - rmedranollamas 4y ago
    I know it too, thanks.
- CharlesW 4y ago
  > Sorry for pointing out, but such absolutists statements are easily debunked with a single 'black swan'. The parent commenter was making a generalization, like "all birds have wings". The discoverability problem is a legitimate point. If we allow the colloquial English for a moment, it'd be interesting to hear informed opinions on how that can be solved.
  - peoplefromibiza 4y ago