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I don't understand, if you are an hourly worker you are getting paid at least as much for each additional hour? A salaried worker is comparing jobs that claim t

by yakak 4y ago

I don't understand, if you are an hourly worker you are getting paid at least as much for each additional hour? A salaried worker is comparing jobs that claim to be 40 hours and is being cheated out of income per hour if they take one that is actually more hours than another position with the same salary. There are the same kinds of labor cheats done on hourly laborers, but you can measure the crime and get a significant damages pay out (at least in some states) if you contact a labor attorney.

jryhjythtr 4y ago
>I don't understand, If you are a software engineer (or even, a "coder", which I think is an incredibly apt analogy for OP to mention), does your work calendar currently say "code this week for 65 hours or else" ?
- yakak 4y ago
  Of course not, I would accept a different job. The game is doing these or else's within the week and not compensating for them. A company that pays 70 hour a week worker is paying for at least 85 hours of time or can be sued and the worker must not have any more appropriate offers that the employer tricked them out of taking.
  - jryhjythtr 4y ago
    >Of course not, I would accept a different job. Tell OP that. Or, maybe you could heed his warning about the future of the software industry.
    - yakak 4y ago
      The problem of the salary job overtime scam is one of an employer misrepresenting a job to be equivalent to other jobs to ultimately get more value for less money, it has nothing to do with different parts of the job market having lower bargaining power. If the software industry fails, the scam is entirely unnecessary.
rc_subreme 4y ago
Yes. I am paid time and a half past 40 hours as mandated by US law. At time and a half, I am still falling short of the salaried spreadsheet operators who are the lower tier of the non-labor workforce. If you take all the overtime, 12 hours every weekday and 8 hours on saturday, for an entire year, you can make 70K before taxes. My issue is mostly wage stagnation and lesser benefits, as well as the lack of security, and the way the trend isn't showing any signs of reversing leaving me worried if gen Z is even going to bother and an entire way of life won't disappear along with 'Made in the U.S.A', as well as a warning that tech field might be next up for optimization of labor costs if VCs go off to chase the next thing and CRUD stops printing money.

by yakak 4y ago

jryhjythtr 4y ago

>I don't understand, If you are a software engineer (or even, a "coder", which I think is an incredibly apt analogy for OP to mention), does your work calendar currently say "code this week for 65 hours or else" ?

yakak 4y ago
Of course not, I would accept a different job. The game is doing these or else's within the week and not compensating for them. A company that pays 70 hour a week worker is paying for at least 85 hours of time or can be sued and the worker must not have any more appropriate offers that the employer tricked them out of taking.
- jryhjythtr 4y ago
  >Of course not, I would accept a different job. Tell OP that. Or, maybe you could heed his warning about the future of the software industry.
  - yakak 4y ago
    The problem of the salary job overtime scam is one of an employer misrepresenting a job to be equivalent to other jobs to ultimately get more value for less money, it has nothing to do with different parts of the job market having lower bargaining power. If the software industry fails, the scam is entirely unnecessary.

rc_subreme 4y ago

Yes. I am paid time and a half past 40 hours as mandated by US law. At time and a half, I am still falling short of the salaried spreadsheet operators who are the lower tier of the non-labor workforce. If you take all the overtime, 12 hours every weekday and 8 hours on saturday, for an entire year, you can make 70K before taxes. My issue is mostly wage stagnation and lesser benefits, as well as the lack of security, and the way the trend isn't showing any signs of reversing leaving me worried if gen Z is even going to bother and an entire way of life won't disappear along with 'Made in the U.S.A', as well as a warning that tech field might be next up for optimization of labor costs if VCs go off to chase the next thing and CRUD stops printing money.