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The vast majority of people don’t dislike all those things you say in the second paragraph. What people do dislike is using “free speech” as a stick to selectiv

The vast majority of people don’t dislike all those things you say in the second paragraph. What people do dislike is using “free speech” as a stick to selectively encourage the use of racist/sexist language on a platform with a lot of impressionable people. All free speech is arbitrary and his malicious motives are transparent and disgusting in this one case.

systemvoltage 4y ago
I used to be a die hard progressive and campaigned for candidates. Liberals used to have the same basic understanding of American principles, culture and constitution as their counterparts. ACLU was pro-free speech. Die hard progressives were about net neutrality, freedom of expression and against 3 letter agencies. It's the 10-20% left has gone way past the basic rationality and is on the same basic scale as QAnon to me. They can't agree on things like biological facts and everything is racist/sexist, trying to force their ideology by supressing free speech. Total lunacy. May be your tolerance for normal things have diminished and you find normal speech "offensive". I haven't found anything sexist/racist on Twitter or elsewhere on places like /r/conservative. It's most likely your definition of racist/sexist that's changed.
- ydf 4y ago
  I agree, the fall of the ACLU has been particularly disappointing. The former longtime executive director Ira Glasser has done a number of press interviews on how the ACLU has been taken over by 'progressive' ideologues who don't support free speech or other civil liberties. I was amazed at their intervention in a recent lawsuit where they argued against releasing public records. The ACLU of old would never have done this. I think this case is also what you are referring to when you mention denial of biological facts? For others reading this comment, here's what the ACLU actually submitted to the court: > Proposed Intervenors deny the allegation that "it is precisely a combination of anatomy, genitalia, and physical characteristics that differentiate men from women[.]" Proposed Intervenors also deny the allegation that "human beings" are "sexually dimorphic, divided into males and females each with reproductive systems, hormones, and chromosomes that result in significant differences between men[] and women[.]" It is absurd. They have really lost the plot.
- bergenty 4y ago
  I’m a raging sexist myself. I want women back in the kitchen- subservient and disenfranchised. But I don’t want to see my views in wider society since it would lead to a shitty life for a lot of people. The difference between me an you is you want society to return to being evil and you’ll do whatever it takes to get there. Disgusting.

systemvoltage 4y ago

I used to be a die hard progressive and campaigned for candidates. Liberals used to have the same basic understanding of American principles, culture and constitution as their counterparts. ACLU was pro-free speech. Die hard progressives were about net neutrality, freedom of expression and against 3 letter agencies. It's the 10-20% left has gone way past the basic rationality and is on the same basic scale as QAnon to me. They can't agree on things like biological facts and everything is racist/sexist, trying to force their ideology by supressing free speech. Total lunacy. May be your tolerance for normal things have diminished and you find normal speech "offensive". I haven't found anything sexist/racist on Twitter or elsewhere on places like /r/conservative. It's most likely your definition of racist/sexist that's changed.

ydf 4y ago
I agree, the fall of the ACLU has been particularly disappointing. The former longtime executive director Ira Glasser has done a number of press interviews on how the ACLU has been taken over by 'progressive' ideologues who don't support free speech or other civil liberties. I was amazed at their intervention in a recent lawsuit where they argued against releasing public records. The ACLU of old would never have done this. I think this case is also what you are referring to when you mention denial of biological facts? For others reading this comment, here's what the ACLU actually submitted to the court: > Proposed Intervenors deny the allegation that "it is precisely a combination of anatomy, genitalia, and physical characteristics that differentiate men from women[.]" Proposed Intervenors also deny the allegation that "human beings" are "sexually dimorphic, divided into males and females each with reproductive systems, hormones, and chromosomes that result in significant differences between men[] and women[.]" It is absurd. They have really lost the plot.
bergenty 4y ago
I’m a raging sexist myself. I want women back in the kitchen- subservient and disenfranchised. But I don’t want to see my views in wider society since it would lead to a shitty life for a lot of people. The difference between me an you is you want society to return to being evil and you’ll do whatever it takes to get there. Disgusting.