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The title is not the article of the actual title and is pretty misleading >The encouragement is aimed not at pushing Ukraine to the negotiating table, but ensu

by rat87 4y ago

The title is not the article of the actual title and is pretty misleading >The encouragement is aimed not at pushing Ukraine to the negotiating table, but ensuring it maintains a moral high ground in the eyes of its international backers ... > While U.S. officials share their Ukrainian counterparts’ assessment that Putin, for now, isn’t serious about negotiations, they acknowledge that President Volodymyr Zelensky’s ban on talks with him has generated concern in parts of Europe, Africa and Latin America, where the war’s disruptive effects on the availability and cost of food and fuel are felt most sharply. Biden simply wants to bring attention that Ukraine has been willing to negotiate in good faith effort to get Russia to get out ASAP while Russia has been unwilling to admit its losing the war and has seemed to stick to it's initial goals of conquering Ukraine even as the goal gets more and more ridiculous. If Russia wants any scraps of face-saving gestures or to get its foreign reserves back it had better start negotiating soon.

wellthatsawrap1 4y ago
mamonster 4y ago
I mean it's not like Ukraine is serious about negotiations themselves (and why should they be), and neither is Russia. Serious negotiations imply that there is even a remote possibility of the sides working out the deal. One look at the starting positions of what Ukraine would want to settle and what Russia would want to settle tells you all you need to know. Asking Zelensky to negotiate for Ukrainian statehood is more ridiculous than asking Putin to negotiate the existence of the current Russian state as it is, but both propositions in themselves are completely disconnected from reality.
- miguelazo 4y ago
  > One look at the starting positions of what Ukraine would want to settle and what Russia would want to settle tells you all you need to know. Disagree. They already had an acceptable deal to both parties on the table in April and the US torpedoed it. They sent Boris to make sure the message was completely understood. Ukrainian press even reported that.
miguelazo 4y ago
Get a clue— Russia has been willing to negotiate in good faith all along. It’s the US that has blocked those negotiations from succeeding, along with right sector Nazis within the Ukrainian government (who assassinated one of their own negotiators, btw). This article indicates that the US may be finally ready to allow the major hostilities to end and won’t try to weaken Russia further by “fighting to the last Ukrainian” as Lindsey Graham so eloquently put it.

by rat87 4y ago

wellthatsawrap1 4y ago

mamonster 4y ago

I mean it's not like Ukraine is serious about negotiations themselves (and why should they be), and neither is Russia. Serious negotiations imply that there is even a remote possibility of the sides working out the deal. One look at the starting positions of what Ukraine would want to settle and what Russia would want to settle tells you all you need to know. Asking Zelensky to negotiate for Ukrainian statehood is more ridiculous than asking Putin to negotiate the existence of the current Russian state as it is, but both propositions in themselves are completely disconnected from reality.

miguelazo 4y ago
> One look at the starting positions of what Ukraine would want to settle and what Russia would want to settle tells you all you need to know. Disagree. They already had an acceptable deal to both parties on the table in April and the US torpedoed it. They sent Boris to make sure the message was completely understood. Ukrainian press even reported that.

miguelazo 4y ago

Get a clue— Russia has been willing to negotiate in good faith all along. It’s the US that has blocked those negotiations from succeeding, along with right sector Nazis within the Ukrainian government (who assassinated one of their own negotiators, btw). This article indicates that the US may be finally ready to allow the major hostilities to end and won’t try to weaken Russia further by “fighting to the last Ukrainian” as Lindsey Graham so eloquently put it.