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It already has changed. The Twitter from two weeks ago is gone and replaced with… something. We don’t know what that currently means, but it is different. The

It already has changed. The Twitter from two weeks ago is gone and replaced with… something. We don’t know what that currently means, but it is different. The hypothesis wasn’t that Twitter will immediately fail. It was that it is currently on that path. And that changes happen gradually, but can be profound. (Or as the trope about bankruptcy goes: it happens gradually and then all at once). It might not ever “fail” as a company, but it’s on that path. Whether that is less relevance or a bankrupt company, it’s too early to say. All we do know is that it is changing.

simondotau 4y ago
> It already has changed. The Twitter from two weeks ago is gone Is it though? My own experience is that Twitter is exactly the same as it was two weeks ago. The only difference I'm seeing is that a lot of people on Twitter are currently preoccupied with the topic of Twitter. As far as I can tell it's not really much different than when a lot of people on Twitter have been preoccupied with some other controversy. And in every case, the same discussions of general news and domestic politics go on entirely unaffected.
- the_mitsuhiko 4y ago
  > Is it though? I can at least say that it is for me. Not because of changes on Twitter but because a lot of the people I am on Twitter for have all the sudden created Mastodon profiles and started posting content there too.
- piva00 4y ago
  It is. We might not see all the ramifications of it in the public sphere yet but it's, definitely, a different company going into a different direction with their product. Like GP said, what it has become is still for us to find out but the wheel has been set in motion: staff is being laid off, product changes are being introduced, whole departments are left not staffed and it will take weeks to months for all of this to unravel. It is a different beast, internally, than it was 2 weeks ago. It will keep changing and being molded but that Twitter no longer exists, it's on the path to become something else.
  - simondotau 4y ago
    I’m confused how the semantic game of “that Twitter no longer exists” contributes to the discussion. By that same logic, you could say that the Twitter of 2015 didn’t exist in 2020. The only difference is the speed of change.
- dragontamer 4y ago
  Twitter has gone from losing -$200 million per year into losing -$2,000 million per year... in just one week. ($1,300 million extra losses from the debt associated with the buyout, $600 million lost in advertising revenue). Its a serious problem for sure. Its obviously a far more stressful situation for all involved. Perhaps the typical user isn't affected yet, but we're all forward looking. Anyone who can add up revenue / costs / profits can see that Twitter suddenly became in trouble this past week.

simondotau 4y ago

> It already has changed. The Twitter from two weeks ago is gone Is it though? My own experience is that Twitter is exactly the same as it was two weeks ago. The only difference I'm seeing is that a lot of people on Twitter are currently preoccupied with the topic of Twitter. As far as I can tell it's not really much different than when a lot of people on Twitter have been preoccupied with some other controversy. And in every case, the same discussions of general news and domestic politics go on entirely unaffected.

the_mitsuhiko 4y ago
> Is it though? I can at least say that it is for me. Not because of changes on Twitter but because a lot of the people I am on Twitter for have all the sudden created Mastodon profiles and started posting content there too.
piva00 4y ago
It is. We might not see all the ramifications of it in the public sphere yet but it's, definitely, a different company going into a different direction with their product. Like GP said, what it has become is still for us to find out but the wheel has been set in motion: staff is being laid off, product changes are being introduced, whole departments are left not staffed and it will take weeks to months for all of this to unravel. It is a different beast, internally, than it was 2 weeks ago. It will keep changing and being molded but that Twitter no longer exists, it's on the path to become something else.
- simondotau 4y ago
  I’m confused how the semantic game of “that Twitter no longer exists” contributes to the discussion. By that same logic, you could say that the Twitter of 2015 didn’t exist in 2020. The only difference is the speed of change.
dragontamer 4y ago
Twitter has gone from losing -$200 million per year into losing -$2,000 million per year... in just one week. ($1,300 million extra losses from the debt associated with the buyout, $600 million lost in advertising revenue). Its a serious problem for sure. Its obviously a far more stressful situation for all involved. Perhaps the typical user isn't affected yet, but we're all forward looking. Anyone who can add up revenue / costs / profits can see that Twitter suddenly became in trouble this past week.