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You are right re solidarity, but thats because we didnt historically see such level of stupidity at such scale. Others layoff people too but in a professional m

You are right re solidarity, but thats because we didnt historically see such level of stupidity at such scale. Others layoff people too but in a professional manner. Instead Elon’s acting like a clown. On the point of solidarity, i stopped using amazon when i learned about the abuse their warehouse workers are subjected to. Went from hundreds of £ a month in average to literally 0.

lovich 4y ago
I didn’t even mean solidarity with other types of workers or unions. We’ve failed to have worker solidarity with each other. It might be my bubble but most of the time I see fellow tech workers looking down on anyone who hasn’t gotten a high comp, usually with the implication that if they were only competent the worker would be doing well. As an industry we’re kinda assholes on average and have an overinflated opinion of our individual abilities and an underestimated importance placed on the situation that made us valuable
piva00 4y ago
I've never seen solidarity in my 20 years in tech. I try at every job to instill some sense of class struggle and solidarity but a lot of the techies really believe they'll, eventually, become capitalists themselves. Even outside of the US I still see a disproportionate amount of workers in tech being anti-union, anti-labour regulations, compared to most other industries. Probably due to the gold rush that tech has become the past 30-40 years, so many fortunes and wealth was created that still gives hope to many workers that they can make it at some point. At the same time, we get so many privileges as tech workers that workers from other industries look at us more as part of the rich capitalists class than what we actually are: salaried workers. The class divide also happens from the other side, I had numerous conversations with blue-collar workers (friends, acquaintances) where I had to clearly spell out that I'm on the same team, that I defend the same values about work protection and dignity as they do. Divide-and-conquer between blue-collars and white-collars is very visible and I feel we need to shorten this gap to actually empower workers.

lovich 4y ago

I didn’t even mean solidarity with other types of workers or unions. We’ve failed to have worker solidarity with each other. It might be my bubble but most of the time I see fellow tech workers looking down on anyone who hasn’t gotten a high comp, usually with the implication that if they were only competent the worker would be doing well. As an industry we’re kinda assholes on average and have an overinflated opinion of our individual abilities and an underestimated importance placed on the situation that made us valuable

piva00 4y ago

I've never seen solidarity in my 20 years in tech. I try at every job to instill some sense of class struggle and solidarity but a lot of the techies really believe they'll, eventually, become capitalists themselves. Even outside of the US I still see a disproportionate amount of workers in tech being anti-union, anti-labour regulations, compared to most other industries. Probably due to the gold rush that tech has become the past 30-40 years, so many fortunes and wealth was created that still gives hope to many workers that they can make it at some point. At the same time, we get so many privileges as tech workers that workers from other industries look at us more as part of the rich capitalists class than what we actually are: salaried workers. The class divide also happens from the other side, I had numerous conversations with blue-collar workers (friends, acquaintances) where I had to clearly spell out that I'm on the same team, that I defend the same values about work protection and dignity as they do. Divide-and-conquer between blue-collars and white-collars is very visible and I feel we need to shorten this gap to actually empower workers.