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Just tried fosstodon and the european commission has an account there?? Cant these political creeps stay the heck out of our daily lives? I dont want to see gov

Just tried fosstodon and the european commission has an account there?? Cant these political creeps stay the heck out of our daily lives? I dont want to see government propaganda creeping into foss, please! Even if its the eu - sets a precedent for others to follow. Keep politics out of all this.

lokedhs 4y ago
The EU has their own instance. You likely saw messages from that one that was federated with your instance. They may also have created an account before their instance was live, but their posts should all be from their instance now so if you don't want to see it you can just block the EU instance
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- yrgulation 4y ago
  Thanks for the clarification. I guess my concerns are more of a philosophical nature and what direction we want this new social network concept to head towards.
  - lokedhs 4y ago
    That's fair, and a concern I share with you. I've been a heavy user of the Fediverse since 2017, and what I see right now is a bit of an eternal september moment. I'm hoping it'll return to some kind of normal once the current storm settles, but there is a risk that this time will be the one that changes the Fediverse landscape forever. The EU instance has been nice, and I'm following several of their accounts, and they're mostly posting policy information as well as updates on various programs, but I can't expect every singe organisational account to be similarly nice. Especially if new ones arrive that post much more controversial content.
scrollaway 4y ago
What? People are free to make accounts. So are companies. So are you. The EC is no different.
- yrgulation 4y ago
  I am a people but the EC is a government. It doesnt have the same rights. I mean we debate government control and surveillance all day long yet these try and invade everything in our lives. Should use political channels for their propaganda. Else we are back to square one. Today its the ec, tomorrow the ccp, then trump, then we argue we dont want trump and the ccp then we argue about censorship then we argue about what is even censorship and so on. I for one wont be using this server until these creeps are banned.
  - scrollaway 4y ago
    I’m trying to come up with a reasonable discussion to have with you but you’re just so off base that I’m not sure it’s possible. 1. What “rights”, dude? The right to sign up to an instance? Anyone can. And all those instances have different rules, different instances they federate to, etc. 2. Who do you think works at the EC if not people? 3. What does the ccp or trump have to do with this? 4. Do you realise how insane it is to even ban individuals because they work in politics? Or because of where they work in general? Does your ban apply if they left their position? Does it apply to congresspeople? Mayors? Neighbourhood watch? Any government employee? If yes then teachers too yes? What about other countries political systems? I… don’t know why I’m even entertaining your post.
    - yrgulation 4y ago
      Resorting to straw man arguments and horse laugh doesnt much add to this debate.
  - systemicdanna 4y ago
    Are you suggesting they should pre-ban all people and entities you don't want to see on the instance?
bragr 4y ago
You're going to be really upset when you discover how much FOSS is funded by governments around the world.
- yrgulation 4y ago
  Not an issue, but they need to stay away for social interaction. Whats this communism and there is an agent infiltrated everywhere just to be sure we are constantly fed propaganda?
mariusor 4y ago
If only there was a way to mute, or block individuals or whole instances from your own account. :P By which I mean: there are some knobs in your profile to ensure that you can do all of that.

lokedhs 4y ago

The EU has their own instance. You likely saw messages from that one that was federated with your instance. They may also have created an account before their instance was live, but their posts should all be from their instance now so if you don't want to see it you can just block the EU instance

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yrgulation 4y ago
Thanks for the clarification. I guess my concerns are more of a philosophical nature and what direction we want this new social network concept to head towards.
- lokedhs 4y ago
  That's fair, and a concern I share with you. I've been a heavy user of the Fediverse since 2017, and what I see right now is a bit of an eternal september moment. I'm hoping it'll return to some kind of normal once the current storm settles, but there is a risk that this time will be the one that changes the Fediverse landscape forever. The EU instance has been nice, and I'm following several of their accounts, and they're mostly posting policy information as well as updates on various programs, but I can't expect every singe organisational account to be similarly nice. Especially if new ones arrive that post much more controversial content.

scrollaway 4y ago

What? People are free to make accounts. So are companies. So are you. The EC is no different.

yrgulation 4y ago
I am a people but the EC is a government. It doesnt have the same rights. I mean we debate government control and surveillance all day long yet these try and invade everything in our lives. Should use political channels for their propaganda. Else we are back to square one. Today its the ec, tomorrow the ccp, then trump, then we argue we dont want trump and the ccp then we argue about censorship then we argue about what is even censorship and so on. I for one wont be using this server until these creeps are banned.
- scrollaway 4y ago
  I’m trying to come up with a reasonable discussion to have with you but you’re just so off base that I’m not sure it’s possible. 1. What “rights”, dude? The right to sign up to an instance? Anyone can. And all those instances have different rules, different instances they federate to, etc. 2. Who do you think works at the EC if not people? 3. What does the ccp or trump have to do with this? 4. Do you realise how insane it is to even ban individuals because they work in politics? Or because of where they work in general? Does your ban apply if they left their position? Does it apply to congresspeople? Mayors? Neighbourhood watch? Any government employee? If yes then teachers too yes? What about other countries political systems? I… don’t know why I’m even entertaining your post.
  - yrgulation 4y ago
    Resorting to straw man arguments and horse laugh doesnt much add to this debate.
- systemicdanna 4y ago
  Are you suggesting they should pre-ban all people and entities you don't want to see on the instance?

bragr 4y ago

You're going to be really upset when you discover how much FOSS is funded by governments around the world.

yrgulation 4y ago
Not an issue, but they need to stay away for social interaction. Whats this communism and there is an agent infiltrated everywhere just to be sure we are constantly fed propaganda?

mariusor 4y ago

If only there was a way to mute, or block individuals or whole instances from your own account. :P By which I mean: there are some knobs in your profile to ensure that you can do all of that.