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> That breaks the idea of having a federated network What fresh nonsense is this? There's never been a federated system with anything like a perfect guarantee
by stormbrew 4y ago
> That breaks the idea of having a federated network
What fresh nonsense is this? There's never been a federated system with anything like a perfect guarantee of connectivity to literally anything. There are always limits, both social and technical.
Where do people get these ideas?
- syntheweave 4y agoThe argument is a case of begging the question: Start with your conclusion, then reason backwards to the justification. It's the case that a federation tends to erode. Likewise, it's the case that a centralized system tends to collapse. The question to ask is really one of backing a horse to ride on to be pragmatically useful; winning the technical argument is academic. The fediverse has a few core principles in mind, and they tend to get centered in Mastodon's marketing. So it does make some sense that it gets attacked for being an imperfect realization of those principles, and for being unprincipled in other respects. But in a head-to-head comparison with other implementations of social media it can still claim to be more principled on those things it tried to pursue.
- ok123456 4y agoHaving the inability to know if a message is propagated federation wide, based on an arbitrary value judgement based on ????, renders it useless as a communication medium. For this to work it needs to be treated as a common carrier, and not a social network.