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It’s not a dumb monitor. Even the new Apple headset will require internet connectivity and an online account. Also from what I’ve seen, most VR headsets have a

It’s not a dumb monitor. Even the new Apple headset will require internet connectivity and an online account. Also from what I’ve seen, most VR headsets have an option for not sharing your usage analytics. It’s not shared by default.

notpushkin 4y ago
> It’s not a dumb monitor It could be. Just like you can use Android phones without signing into Google (or at least could, not sure how stock OS works nowadays as I'm on microG for the last couple years).
- chaostheory 4y ago
  Then there’s only one possible choice: SimulaVR It’s a stand alone full system though
  - cesarb 4y ago
    > It’s a stand alone full system though AFAIK, it will be possible to use SimulaVR either in standalone mode (with its own portable computer running everything) or in tethered mode (plugged into a normal computer which runs everything); there's even an option on the preorder page to get a version without the portable computer (it is my understanding that the portable computer is detachable, so the full version can be transformed into a tethered-only version simply by detaching it).
  - notpushkin 4y ago
    Well, there's always less official choices :-) For example on phones, we have rooting / jailbreak and the aforementioned microG. On Oculus, there's a way to skip the mandatory account sign in and just sideload apps instead. [1] Some tracking will still be there, but I think as it grows more popular we'll also see custom ROMs for it. Maybe even some running the Simula OS? [1]: https://basti564.github.io/Quest-Account-Logout/ https://basti564.github.io/Quest-Account-Logout/
sneak 4y ago
I don’t mean just analytics. Right now precisely zero identifying data leaves the building when I boot my machine, power on my displays, and open some terminal windows and text editors. I don’t know any VR setups available today that I can say that about. Even without analytics they phone home with identifiers (serial numbers, login cookies, etc) on launch/boot.

notpushkin 4y ago

> It’s not a dumb monitor It could be. Just like you can use Android phones without signing into Google (or at least could, not sure how stock OS works nowadays as I'm on microG for the last couple years).

chaostheory 4y ago
Then there’s only one possible choice: SimulaVR It’s a stand alone full system though
- cesarb 4y ago
  > It’s a stand alone full system though AFAIK, it will be possible to use SimulaVR either in standalone mode (with its own portable computer running everything) or in tethered mode (plugged into a normal computer which runs everything); there's even an option on the preorder page to get a version without the portable computer (it is my understanding that the portable computer is detachable, so the full version can be transformed into a tethered-only version simply by detaching it).
- notpushkin 4y ago
  Well, there's always less official choices :-) For example on phones, we have rooting / jailbreak and the aforementioned microG. On Oculus, there's a way to skip the mandatory account sign in and just sideload apps instead. [1] Some tracking will still be there, but I think as it grows more popular we'll also see custom ROMs for it. Maybe even some running the Simula OS? [1]: https://basti564.github.io/Quest-Account-Logout/ https://basti564.github.io/Quest-Account-Logout/

sneak 4y ago

I don’t mean just analytics. Right now precisely zero identifying data leaves the building when I boot my machine, power on my displays, and open some terminal windows and text editors. I don’t know any VR setups available today that I can say that about. Even without analytics they phone home with identifiers (serial numbers, login cookies, etc) on launch/boot.