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Off-topic but TIL that TVP (a polish TV network) has an international news channel https://tvpworld.com/51656539/our-stream https://tvpworld.com/51656539/our-st

by dom96 4y ago

Off-topic but TIL that TVP (a polish TV network) has an international news channel https://tvpworld.com/51656539/our-stream https://tvpworld.com/51656539/our-stream

Kwpolska 4y ago
(a Polish state-owned government propaganda broadcaster*)
- baxtr 4y ago
  I am bit worried about Poland’s push to restrict media. Isn’t that exactly what we’re fighting for in Ukraine? A system where many opinions can co-exist.
  - kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
    No. If it was, something would have been done about the Crimea invasion. Ukraine is a proxy war to weaken a problematic dictator.
    - PhasmaFelis 4y ago
      I was going to say, what, you think the US somehow forced Putin to invade against his will? But then I remembered that there are, somehow, people who actually do believe that.
  - jamiek88 4y ago
    No, they are fighting for literal survival.
  - lo_zamoyski 4y ago
    > I am bit worried about Poland’s push to restrict media. That misrepresents the issue, though it was reported that way abroad. A couple points… The law in question restricts how much foreign investment and ownership there can be in any given media company in Poland. 80% of media in Poland are foreign owned (the majority are in German hands). Imagine if Russia controlled 80% of American media. In Poland’s case, it is also struggling with its own status as a de facto vulnerable neocolonial possession, something Poles would rather not be, especially given their history the last couple of centuries. Indeed, a major cause of the weakening and fall of Poland in the 18th century was foreign meddling and the alliances made by warring political factions with foreign powers who played them off each other. The media company that became a symbol of opposition to this law is TVN which is owned by the American company Discovery Inc. and notoriously pro-opposition and pro-status quo w.r.t. Poland’s status of subordination (the ruling party has no such corporate/foreign backing). So it’s not surprising that the American corporate media would mispresent the nature of this law to Americans in line with thosee corporate interests. The very notion that corporate and foreign media are free of the interests that own and fund them is rather amusing. Mind you, the internet isn’t censored, so Poles are free to follow both the many domestic and foreign media outlets critical of the ruling party at their pleasure, and this is good. And with respect to state media, it is the state media and no pretense is made about it being otherwise. Whenever the ruling party changes, so does the management at TVP.
  - Mikeb85 4y ago
    > Isn’t that exactly what we’re fighting for in Ukraine? No they're literally fighting for survival against a genocidal invasion force...

by dom96 4y ago

Off-topic but TIL that TVP (a polish TV network) has an international news channel https://tvpworld.com/51656539/our-stream https://tvpworld.com/51656539/our-stream

Kwpolska 4y ago

(a Polish state-owned government propaganda broadcaster*)

baxtr 4y ago
I am bit worried about Poland’s push to restrict media. Isn’t that exactly what we’re fighting for in Ukraine? A system where many opinions can co-exist.
- kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
  No. If it was, something would have been done about the Crimea invasion. Ukraine is a proxy war to weaken a problematic dictator.
  - PhasmaFelis 4y ago
    I was going to say, what, you think the US somehow forced Putin to invade against his will? But then I remembered that there are, somehow, people who actually do believe that.
- jamiek88 4y ago
  No, they are fighting for literal survival.
- lo_zamoyski 4y ago
  > I am bit worried about Poland’s push to restrict media. That misrepresents the issue, though it was reported that way abroad. A couple points… The law in question restricts how much foreign investment and ownership there can be in any given media company in Poland. 80% of media in Poland are foreign owned (the majority are in German hands). Imagine if Russia controlled 80% of American media. In Poland’s case, it is also struggling with its own status as a de facto vulnerable neocolonial possession, something Poles would rather not be, especially given their history the last couple of centuries. Indeed, a major cause of the weakening and fall of Poland in the 18th century was foreign meddling and the alliances made by warring political factions with foreign powers who played them off each other. The media company that became a symbol of opposition to this law is TVN which is owned by the American company Discovery Inc. and notoriously pro-opposition and pro-status quo w.r.t. Poland’s status of subordination (the ruling party has no such corporate/foreign backing). So it’s not surprising that the American corporate media would mispresent the nature of this law to Americans in line with thosee corporate interests. The very notion that corporate and foreign media are free of the interests that own and fund them is rather amusing. Mind you, the internet isn’t censored, so Poles are free to follow both the many domestic and foreign media outlets critical of the ruling party at their pleasure, and this is good. And with respect to state media, it is the state media and no pretense is made about it being otherwise. Whenever the ruling party changes, so does the management at TVP.
- Mikeb85 4y ago
  > Isn’t that exactly what we’re fighting for in Ukraine? No they're literally fighting for survival against a genocidal invasion force...