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Just out of curiosity, did you read this? https://i.redd.it/a41q5e8ka0y91.jpg https://i.redd.it/a41q5e8ka0y91.jpg

yucky 4y ago
Yes, particularly his line how "Advertisers are not being manipulated by activist groups" convinced me that whoever Lou Paskalis is, he's either intentionally lying or willfully ignorant[1][2]. Either way, it proves he has no credibility. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Giants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Giants [2]https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jun/30/third-of-advertisers-may-boycott-facebook-in-hate-speech-revolt https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jun/30/third-of-...
- VikingCoder 4y ago
  So, just to be clear, you think Twitter (and by extension Musk and Tesla), along with GM, Audi, Mazda, Porsche, VW, and Ford are being manipulated by activist groups? Or do you think it's more likely that GM, Audi, Mazda, Porsche, VW, and Ford don't want to give money to Twitter (and by extension Musk and their competitor Tesla), and they're blaming the boogey-man of "activist groups"?
  - yucky 4y ago
    I gave you references that prove it. Activists targeting investors and advertisers is not a boogieman, it's literally their publicly stated objective.
    - VikingCoder 4y ago
      And just so we're all on the same page, you have no idea who Lou Paskalis is, and you're accusing others of being willfully ignorant. Got it.
      - yucky 4y ago
        He could be the Pope or the President, he said something ignorant and/or demonstrably incorrect and got called out. He's wrong, and if you believe what he said to be true, then you are wrong too. Facts are a thing, and they matter.
        VikingCoder 4y ago
        Facts are evaluated by collecting evidence. Congratulations, you found some evidence. But so did I. And you're willing to completely ignore the evidence I presented. Facts are a thing, and it's worth deriving them by looking at the available evidence. It makes me really sad to see someone who is absolutely convinced by the media narrative, who won't even look into other evidence.
        yucky 4y ago
        You didn't present any evidence. You posted a screenshot of a tweet where somebody said something that is incorrect. We know that activists target advertisers and investors. It's not just a fact, it is their stated goal and they have countless examples where their targeting accomplished their goals.

Yes, particularly his line how "Advertisers are not being manipulated by activist groups" convinced me that whoever Lou Paskalis is, he's either intentionally lying or willfully ignorant[1][2]. Either way, it proves he has no credibility. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Giants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Giants [2]https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jun/30/third-of-advertisers-may-boycott-facebook-in-hate-speech-revolt https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jun/30/third-of-...

VikingCoder 4y ago
So, just to be clear, you think Twitter (and by extension Musk and Tesla), along with GM, Audi, Mazda, Porsche, VW, and Ford are being manipulated by activist groups? Or do you think it's more likely that GM, Audi, Mazda, Porsche, VW, and Ford don't want to give money to Twitter (and by extension Musk and their competitor Tesla), and they're blaming the boogey-man of "activist groups"?
- yucky 4y ago
  I gave you references that prove it. Activists targeting investors and advertisers is not a boogieman, it's literally their publicly stated objective.
  - VikingCoder 4y ago
    And just so we're all on the same page, you have no idea who Lou Paskalis is, and you're accusing others of being willfully ignorant. Got it.
    - yucky 4y ago
      He could be the Pope or the President, he said something ignorant and/or demonstrably incorrect and got called out. He's wrong, and if you believe what he said to be true, then you are wrong too. Facts are a thing, and they matter.
      - VikingCoder 4y ago
        Facts are evaluated by collecting evidence. Congratulations, you found some evidence. But so did I. And you're willing to completely ignore the evidence I presented. Facts are a thing, and it's worth deriving them by looking at the available evidence. It makes me really sad to see someone who is absolutely convinced by the media narrative, who won't even look into other evidence.
        yucky 4y ago
        You didn't present any evidence. You posted a screenshot of a tweet where somebody said something that is incorrect. We know that activists target advertisers and investors. It's not just a fact, it is their stated goal and they have countless examples where their targeting accomplished their goals.