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> installing apps, updating and uninstalling is a ghost long dead. So, when not installing native apps (which takes time) we add - in the case of e.g. the ipho

> installing apps, updating and uninstalling is a ghost long dead. So, when not installing native apps (which takes time) we add - in the case of e.g. the iphone - webapps (links) to our home screens. Which is faster than installing a native app. After that we 'endure' a longer loading time every time we start the app. And we still have to remove the icon from our home screen when we're done with it. Mind you, I see the advantages of web apps; but this does not seem like any different from the native app use case; it seems a bit worse to me actually. > who would choose to program native Performance junkies? graphically intensive app-developers (games?). Sure, we may have an 'opengl'-component to use in our webapps; but why the extra overhead?

d2vid 15y ago
Long caching headers can keep your javascript heavy web-app from being downloaded every time - the first time you hit the url it "installs" (by caching the files) and after that it loads in about the same time as a native app.
- bulte-rs 15y ago
  Very true. I stand corrected. Only thing left is browser "splash screen"/loading image customization and the experience could be near native.
  - bphogan 15y ago
    According to http://developer.apple.com/library/IOs/#documentation/AppleApplications/Reference/SafariWebContent/ConfiguringWebApplications/ConfiguringWebApplications.html http://developer.apple.com/library/IOs/#documentation/AppleA... you can do this for iOS. To add a splash screen during loading, create a 320x460 .png file, and then link to it in the header: <link rel="apple-touch-startup-image" href="./startup.png" /> I've actually never tried this.
    - bulte-rs 15y ago
      It's good to know; but the only thing I found (note: it was a quick google session) that comes close to this for Android is when using PhoneGap to build a 'native app'. Thanks for the info!
zerostar07 15y ago
Web app icons don't make sense as you 'd soon end up with thousands of them. I imagine future phones will just have a voice-recognition-enabled search box instead of icon grids.
- bulte-rs 15y ago
  The same could be said about native apps. There are more than enough apps in the various app stores to fill numerous 'springboard screens'. On the other side we only use a small set of apps. Why would habits change when switching from native to web-based when the experience is the same?

d2vid 15y ago

Long caching headers can keep your javascript heavy web-app from being downloaded every time - the first time you hit the url it "installs" (by caching the files) and after that it loads in about the same time as a native app.

bulte-rs 15y ago
Very true. I stand corrected. Only thing left is browser "splash screen"/loading image customization and the experience could be near native.
- bphogan 15y ago
  According to http://developer.apple.com/library/IOs/#documentation/AppleApplications/Reference/SafariWebContent/ConfiguringWebApplications/ConfiguringWebApplications.html http://developer.apple.com/library/IOs/#documentation/AppleA... you can do this for iOS. To add a splash screen during loading, create a 320x460 .png file, and then link to it in the header: <link rel="apple-touch-startup-image" href="./startup.png" /> I've actually never tried this.
  - bulte-rs 15y ago
    It's good to know; but the only thing I found (note: it was a quick google session) that comes close to this for Android is when using PhoneGap to build a 'native app'. Thanks for the info!

zerostar07 15y ago

Web app icons don't make sense as you 'd soon end up with thousands of them. I imagine future phones will just have a voice-recognition-enabled search box instead of icon grids.

bulte-rs 15y ago
The same could be said about native apps. There are more than enough apps in the various app stores to fill numerous 'springboard screens'. On the other side we only use a small set of apps. Why would habits change when switching from native to web-based when the experience is the same?