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It's great that UK has these laws. Although there is clear and malicious effort from Twitter to put obstacles in the way of employees trying to get representati

by clnq 4y ago

It's great that UK has these laws. Although there is clear and malicious effort from Twitter to put obstacles in the way of employees trying to get representation (notices sent on Friday evening with period ending on Tuesday morning, usual communication tools being frozen in the company), it still beats being fired without any conversation. I am sure that they will find interested law firms on Monday, if the firms won't reach out to Twitter employees first.

dannyw 4y ago
What if this leads to the shutdown of Twitter UK altogether? Would that be so great?
- TheOtherHobbes 4y ago
  "We can't afford to treat our staff humanely because it's not in our business plan" may not be the argument it appears to be.
- guax 4y ago
  If treating employees with respect makes the business unviable, the business was never viable.
- sofixa 4y ago
  Yes, businesses that cannot treat employees (and customers for that matter) shouldn't exist, so if that were the case, good riddance.
- teknofobi 4y ago
  That is part of the less pretty side of how unions perform their capitalistic functions. Killing companies that threaten established worker rights, so as to not get races to the bottom. For another example they should also cull companies or even industries that have become so unproductive that they can no longer compete on compensation. > Accounting for selection effects and the potential endogeneity of unionisation, the results show that increasing union density at the firm level leads to a substantial increase in both productivity and wages. https://academic.oup.com/ej/article/130/631/1898/5824627 https://academic.oup.com/ej/article/130/631/1898/5824627 > After controlling for differences between studies, a negative association between unions and produc- tivity is established for the United Kingdom, whereas a positive association is established for the United States in general and for U.S. manufacturing. https://library.fes.de/libalt/journals/swetsfulltext/17556769.pdf https://library.fes.de/libalt/journals/swetsfulltext/1755676...

by clnq 4y ago

dannyw 4y ago

What if this leads to the shutdown of Twitter UK altogether? Would that be so great?

TheOtherHobbes 4y ago
"We can't afford to treat our staff humanely because it's not in our business plan" may not be the argument it appears to be.
guax 4y ago
If treating employees with respect makes the business unviable, the business was never viable.
sofixa 4y ago
Yes, businesses that cannot treat employees (and customers for that matter) shouldn't exist, so if that were the case, good riddance.
teknofobi 4y ago
That is part of the less pretty side of how unions perform their capitalistic functions. Killing companies that threaten established worker rights, so as to not get races to the bottom. For another example they should also cull companies or even industries that have become so unproductive that they can no longer compete on compensation. > Accounting for selection effects and the potential endogeneity of unionisation, the results show that increasing union density at the firm level leads to a substantial increase in both productivity and wages. https://academic.oup.com/ej/article/130/631/1898/5824627 https://academic.oup.com/ej/article/130/631/1898/5824627 > After controlling for differences between studies, a negative association between unions and produc- tivity is established for the United Kingdom, whereas a positive association is established for the United States in general and for U.S. manufacturing. https://library.fes.de/libalt/journals/swetsfulltext/17556769.pdf https://library.fes.de/libalt/journals/swetsfulltext/1755676...