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Yeah I think you might be missing the point - the aim with these protests is to toe the line between getting news attention without getting it for the wrong rea

by _oyks 4y ago

Yeah I think you might be missing the point - the aim with these protests is to toe the line between getting news attention without getting it for the wrong reasons. The actual protest and the cause do not have to be perfectly matched

melling 4y ago
Nah, they’re climate change “alarmists”. People ignore them. It doesn’t change anyone’s mind. https://youtu.be/3E0a_60PMR8 https://youtu.be/3E0a_60PMR8 https://www.foxnews.com/media/physicist-tells-tucker-carlson-climate-change-is-fiction-of-the-media.amp https://www.foxnews.com/media/physicist-tells-tucker-carlson... Companies do make more promises they can’t keep. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/02/07/study-worlds-biggest-firms-seen-exaggerating-their-climate-actions.html https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/02/07/study-worlds-biggest-fir...
voldacar 4y ago
The point of the protests is for the protesters to signal moral righteousness
- antiterra 4y ago
  I’m going to let you in on a secret: people can have deeply held beliefs. Yes, some people are dishonest about their opinions for political or social advantage. However, a knee jerk reaction that people vocally expressing an opinion you disagree with are simply posturing or virtue signaling is a form of denial.
  - melling 4y ago
    Which opinion do you think we disagree with? The point we really would like you to understand is that doing meaningless pointless things that accomplish nothing is wasting everyone’s time. If anything, people are making the problem worse. Peter Thiel won’t be giving up flying private anytime soon. https://youtu.be/Tl_QeSk1_4k https://youtu.be/Tl_QeSk1_4k
veeti 4y ago
The wrong reasons, such as blocking first aid and causing the death of an innocent cyclist: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63517102 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63517102 Maybe it's time to start calling out these ecoterrorist clowns for what they truly are.
- ok_dad 4y ago
  They caused one death, polluting industry caused millions per year. I guess I feel bad for the cyclist, but people die everyday and no one hears about it. Blaming the climate movement for a single death is simply redirecting focus from the probability that we’re all headed for a big hurt due to lack of concern and self control as a society.
  - fargle 4y ago
    that's why they are eco-terrorists - terrorist: a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. the problem is that the cyclist they killed is not "the polluting industry". the other problem is that even if he was CEO of Exxon, what is revenge killing OK now and not murder? if you go around blocking, harassing, destroying property, injuring and/or killing people - who are individuals that largely have no more or less ability to change things than you - then you are a terrorist, not a protester. you do not know if that traffic jam blocked an organ transplant or an ambulance. it's fine to protest and hold signs and shout and have parades and be politically active, fine you are an activist. beyond that, you're no longer the good guy underdog - you're worse than "the industry" you wish to save us from.
    - ok_dad 4y ago
      Wow that’s a lot of hyperbole. If I called you a Nazi right now (I’m not, it’s rhetorical) it would almost be less hyperbolic than calling a huge group of protestors terrorists and worse than big oil because one guy died due to traffic.
      - 4y ago

by _oyks 4y ago

melling 4y ago

Nah, they’re climate change “alarmists”. People ignore them. It doesn’t change anyone’s mind. https://youtu.be/3E0a_60PMR8 https://youtu.be/3E0a_60PMR8 https://www.foxnews.com/media/physicist-tells-tucker-carlson-climate-change-is-fiction-of-the-media.amp https://www.foxnews.com/media/physicist-tells-tucker-carlson... Companies do make more promises they can’t keep. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/02/07/study-worlds-biggest-firms-seen-exaggerating-their-climate-actions.html https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/02/07/study-worlds-biggest-fir...

voldacar 4y ago

The point of the protests is for the protesters to signal moral righteousness

antiterra 4y ago
I’m going to let you in on a secret: people can have deeply held beliefs. Yes, some people are dishonest about their opinions for political or social advantage. However, a knee jerk reaction that people vocally expressing an opinion you disagree with are simply posturing or virtue signaling is a form of denial.
- melling 4y ago
  Which opinion do you think we disagree with? The point we really would like you to understand is that doing meaningless pointless things that accomplish nothing is wasting everyone’s time. If anything, people are making the problem worse. Peter Thiel won’t be giving up flying private anytime soon. https://youtu.be/Tl_QeSk1_4k https://youtu.be/Tl_QeSk1_4k

veeti 4y ago

The wrong reasons, such as blocking first aid and causing the death of an innocent cyclist: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63517102 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63517102 Maybe it's time to start calling out these ecoterrorist clowns for what they truly are.

ok_dad 4y ago
They caused one death, polluting industry caused millions per year. I guess I feel bad for the cyclist, but people die everyday and no one hears about it. Blaming the climate movement for a single death is simply redirecting focus from the probability that we’re all headed for a big hurt due to lack of concern and self control as a society.
- fargle 4y ago
  that's why they are eco-terrorists - terrorist: a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. the problem is that the cyclist they killed is not "the polluting industry". the other problem is that even if he was CEO of Exxon, what is revenge killing OK now and not murder? if you go around blocking, harassing, destroying property, injuring and/or killing people - who are individuals that largely have no more or less ability to change things than you - then you are a terrorist, not a protester. you do not know if that traffic jam blocked an organ transplant or an ambulance. it's fine to protest and hold signs and shout and have parades and be politically active, fine you are an activist. beyond that, you're no longer the good guy underdog - you're worse than "the industry" you wish to save us from.
  - ok_dad 4y ago
    Wow that’s a lot of hyperbole. If I called you a Nazi right now (I’m not, it’s rhetorical) it would almost be less hyperbolic than calling a huge group of protestors terrorists and worse than big oil because one guy died due to traffic.
    - 4y ago