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Yes, I know. I read the article. I also think it is sensible to be aware of cheaters and treat them accordingly, though we're not a haplodiploid species. Bear i

by _0ffh 4y ago

Yes, I know. I read the article. I also think it is sensible to be aware of cheaters and treat them accordingly, though we're not a haplodiploid species. Bear in mind that dealing with cheaters must not be taken as an excuse for violence or robbery. What is your point regarding my answer to gp post? I didn't even mention the words "bureaucracy" or "government". Rest assured though, that I despise them both.

ZeroGravitas 4y ago
The article used those terms, in a way that cast Kropotkin in a "right libertarian" light which struck me as anachronistic given his time period. Your comment seemed to echo that, talking about some Anarcho-capitalist libertarian ideal buzzword society, linking that to his anarchism and then further attaching the generic word 'capitalist' to it. This felt like a stretch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism > Anarcho-capitalism is also distinguished from anarchism, an anti-capitalist movement that opposes unnecessary coercion and hierarchy, and social anarchism, a branch of anarchism that sees individual freedom as interrelated with mutual aid. Unlike anarchists, anarcho-capitalists support private property and private institutions. Anarcho-capitalists also reject the libertarian socialist economic theories of anarchism, arguing that they are inherently authoritarian or require authoritarianism to achieve, while believing that there is no coercion under capitalism. Despite its name, anarcho-capitalism lies outside the tradition of anarchism and is more closely affiliated with capitalism, right-libertarianism, and liberalism
- _0ffh 4y ago
  I'd like to point you to a detailed rebuttal of this claim in text [1] and video [2] form. Wikipedia should not be anyone's only source. [1] https://springtimeofnations.org/2021/04/yes-ancaps-are-anarchists https://springtimeofnations.org/2021/04/yes-ancaps-are-anarc... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJb2-bsWP6Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJb2-bsWP6Y
  - ZeroGravitas 4y ago
    Having an obscure historical claim to a word commonly associated with people who you disagree with is the best kind of Technically Correct, but not great for communication. I was mostly trying to point out that there are disagreements about what "anarchist" means and avoid confusion.
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    - _0ffh 4y ago
      > I was mostly trying to point out that there are disagreements I've got a feeling you hit the nail squarely on the head there! =) I didn't quite catch your meaning.

by _0ffh 4y ago

ZeroGravitas 4y ago

The article used those terms, in a way that cast Kropotkin in a "right libertarian" light which struck me as anachronistic given his time period. Your comment seemed to echo that, talking about some Anarcho-capitalist libertarian ideal buzzword society, linking that to his anarchism and then further attaching the generic word 'capitalist' to it. This felt like a stretch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism > Anarcho-capitalism is also distinguished from anarchism, an anti-capitalist movement that opposes unnecessary coercion and hierarchy, and social anarchism, a branch of anarchism that sees individual freedom as interrelated with mutual aid. Unlike anarchists, anarcho-capitalists support private property and private institutions. Anarcho-capitalists also reject the libertarian socialist economic theories of anarchism, arguing that they are inherently authoritarian or require authoritarianism to achieve, while believing that there is no coercion under capitalism. Despite its name, anarcho-capitalism lies outside the tradition of anarchism and is more closely affiliated with capitalism, right-libertarianism, and liberalism

_0ffh 4y ago
I'd like to point you to a detailed rebuttal of this claim in text [1] and video [2] form. Wikipedia should not be anyone's only source. [1] https://springtimeofnations.org/2021/04/yes-ancaps-are-anarchists https://springtimeofnations.org/2021/04/yes-ancaps-are-anarc... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJb2-bsWP6Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJb2-bsWP6Y
- ZeroGravitas 4y ago
  Having an obscure historical claim to a word commonly associated with people who you disagree with is the best kind of Technically Correct, but not great for communication. I was mostly trying to point out that there are disagreements about what "anarchist" means and avoid confusion.
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  - _0ffh 4y ago
    > I was mostly trying to point out that there are disagreements I've got a feeling you hit the nail squarely on the head there! =) I didn't quite catch your meaning.