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I am very much pro Ukraine and all that. But please let’s keep having respect for other humans. No matter how much we hate them. That’s also part of our value s

by baxtr 4y ago

I am very much pro Ukraine and all that. But please let’s keep having respect for other humans. No matter how much we hate them. That’s also part of our value system we’re defending over there.

causi 4y ago
"Orcs" is an incredibly gentle term, but fair enough, they're not literally orcs. "The Russian invaders who rape infants and then throw them in mass graves with their parents failed to establish air superiority partly due to the effectiveness of the manpads."
- pxmpxm 4y ago
  Oooh, do America/Iraq next
  - causi 4y ago
    That is also awful, and the way American leadership covered for those monsters nauseates me.
  - KingOfCoders 4y ago
    Look up Phoenix program for wild things. Not to take any Iraqi victims lightly, but Vietnam had much more atrocities.
    - pxmpxm 4y ago
      I think you're collectively missing my point; the two parents in this thread are phenomenal example of https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/355/607/670 https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/355/607/670 Related, but it's pretty eye opening to see left-leaning people being marketed and fully sold a war. I can only surmise this latest rehash of "support of troops" is about the best chance/narrative that team donkey has for the upcoming elections. Cognitive dissonance banalities(1) notwithstanding. (1)https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/25/democrats-joe-biden-ukraine-war-russia-letter https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/25/democrats-jo...
      - baxtr 4y ago
        Nice graphic. I have been thinking about this a bit. I think a good way to say on which side you are is to ask: Could I protest here freely? Most democratic systems will allow protests, no matter what the official/government position on the topic is. Protesting and speaking your mind will get you in serious trouble elsewhere.
      - KingOfCoders 4y ago
        Yes I missed your point and thinking about it I don't know what's your point when you've said "Oooh, do America/Iraq next" I thought it was about the relativity of a standpoint and mirror positions. For that I've replied "use Vietnam", because in the atrocities of the US Iraq is relativly moderate and not very interesting to do a "The American ..." but the Phoenix program is much more so. But I didn't get it.
lnsru 4y ago
I don’t think, that politics is a topic for HN. But orcs is too nice word for the beasts who put the corpses of men in the city center and force the little crying kids to identify their dead parents. And then shoot whole families as a punishment for resistance. And the western countries are very worried again.

by baxtr 4y ago

I am very much pro Ukraine and all that. But please let’s keep having respect for other humans. No matter how much we hate them. That’s also part of our value system we’re defending over there.

causi 4y ago

"Orcs" is an incredibly gentle term, but fair enough, they're not literally orcs. "The Russian invaders who rape infants and then throw them in mass graves with their parents failed to establish air superiority partly due to the effectiveness of the manpads."

pxmpxm 4y ago
Oooh, do America/Iraq next
- causi 4y ago
  That is also awful, and the way American leadership covered for those monsters nauseates me.
- KingOfCoders 4y ago
  Look up Phoenix program for wild things. Not to take any Iraqi victims lightly, but Vietnam had much more atrocities.
  - pxmpxm 4y ago
    I think you're collectively missing my point; the two parents in this thread are phenomenal example of https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/355/607/670 https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/355/607/670 Related, but it's pretty eye opening to see left-leaning people being marketed and fully sold a war. I can only surmise this latest rehash of "support of troops" is about the best chance/narrative that team donkey has for the upcoming elections. Cognitive dissonance banalities(1) notwithstanding. (1)https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/25/democrats-joe-biden-ukraine-war-russia-letter https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/25/democrats-jo...
    - baxtr 4y ago
      Nice graphic. I have been thinking about this a bit. I think a good way to say on which side you are is to ask: Could I protest here freely? Most democratic systems will allow protests, no matter what the official/government position on the topic is. Protesting and speaking your mind will get you in serious trouble elsewhere.
    - KingOfCoders 4y ago
      Yes I missed your point and thinking about it I don't know what's your point when you've said "Oooh, do America/Iraq next" I thought it was about the relativity of a standpoint and mirror positions. For that I've replied "use Vietnam", because in the atrocities of the US Iraq is relativly moderate and not very interesting to do a "The American ..." but the Phoenix program is much more so. But I didn't get it.

lnsru 4y ago

I don’t think, that politics is a topic for HN. But orcs is too nice word for the beasts who put the corpses of men in the city center and force the little crying kids to identify their dead parents. And then shoot whole families as a punishment for resistance. And the western countries are very worried again.