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> basically we don't know Yes, it has been grossly mismanaged from a PR perspective. Expecting no fallout from that is naive.

concordDance 4y ago
Honestly there was no way to get good PR out of this. Musk is disliked by those who form "public opinion" and he's been threatening to make their home (twitter) no longer their home (by making it no longer reflect progressive values). There is no universe where Musk takes over twitter and gets good PR.
- tchaffee 4y ago
  Getting good PR and having disastrous PR are not the only two possible outcomes. This could have been managed far better. But Musk is impulsive and there are PR consequences to being impulsive. You could also consider that Musk rushed into buying Twitter with a poorly written contract and he was legally forced to buy the company. He didn't end up there due to a well managed plan. He's there thanks to his impulsive and childish nature.
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- hotpotamus 4y ago
  Yes, poor poor Elon, if only the powerful progressives weren't in control of public opinion, no one would have a problem with any of his actions.
- ChildOfChaos 4y ago
  Exactly. But why are people so obsessed with PR in the first place? Who cares? People are obsessed with drama. My view is there is too much of that, cut that crap out, it's irrelevant to your life. Either Twitter as a product, is useful to you, or it's not, so either use it or don't. Twitter as a product did not change in the past week, if you never read any news headlines, you would be completely none the wiser and still happily using it if you were using it before. There is too much real stuff to worry about to get caught up in the drama of this.
- acdha 4y ago
  This is weird position to contrast with the widespread fawning coverage Musk received until the last few years ago, not to mention the claim that public opinion is set by progressives which ignores both the massive conservative media ecosystem and the generally centrist leanings of most other outlets. Conservatives like to dismiss the NYT, WaPo, NPR, etc. as progressive but that’s a ploy to avoid engaging with stories which make them uncomfortable and shouldn’t be confused with sober analysis. The reason Musk has PR problems is simple: he creates them. No other CEO at his level has such an unfiltered stream of consciousness going public without a filter, and few have his taste for pointless stunts. The stuff which hurt his reputation wasn’t things like dating rock stars or having children with women other than his wife (this is largely priced in to the reputation of very rich men) but stuff like very publicly calling someone a pedophile out of pique from being outdone. He could stop that at any time and pretty much every employee and shareholder of his companies would be grateful.

concordDance 4y ago

Honestly there was no way to get good PR out of this. Musk is disliked by those who form "public opinion" and he's been threatening to make their home (twitter) no longer their home (by making it no longer reflect progressive values). There is no universe where Musk takes over twitter and gets good PR.

tchaffee 4y ago
Getting good PR and having disastrous PR are not the only two possible outcomes. This could have been managed far better. But Musk is impulsive and there are PR consequences to being impulsive. You could also consider that Musk rushed into buying Twitter with a poorly written contract and he was legally forced to buy the company. He didn't end up there due to a well managed plan. He's there thanks to his impulsive and childish nature.
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hotpotamus 4y ago
Yes, poor poor Elon, if only the powerful progressives weren't in control of public opinion, no one would have a problem with any of his actions.
ChildOfChaos 4y ago
Exactly. But why are people so obsessed with PR in the first place? Who cares? People are obsessed with drama. My view is there is too much of that, cut that crap out, it's irrelevant to your life. Either Twitter as a product, is useful to you, or it's not, so either use it or don't. Twitter as a product did not change in the past week, if you never read any news headlines, you would be completely none the wiser and still happily using it if you were using it before. There is too much real stuff to worry about to get caught up in the drama of this.
acdha 4y ago
This is weird position to contrast with the widespread fawning coverage Musk received until the last few years ago, not to mention the claim that public opinion is set by progressives which ignores both the massive conservative media ecosystem and the generally centrist leanings of most other outlets. Conservatives like to dismiss the NYT, WaPo, NPR, etc. as progressive but that’s a ploy to avoid engaging with stories which make them uncomfortable and shouldn’t be confused with sober analysis. The reason Musk has PR problems is simple: he creates them. No other CEO at his level has such an unfiltered stream of consciousness going public without a filter, and few have his taste for pointless stunts. The stuff which hurt his reputation wasn’t things like dating rock stars or having children with women other than his wife (this is largely priced in to the reputation of very rich men) but stuff like very publicly calling someone a pedophile out of pique from being outdone. He could stop that at any time and pretty much every employee and shareholder of his companies would be grateful.