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Will Twitter outlast this lettuce?
- FortiDude 4y agoIt would actually be funny if this were a realistic lettuce made of plastic
- kitd 4y agoMy money's on Musk. As much as I dislike his methods, I credit him with more intelligence than Liz Truss.
- phonebucket 4y agoMore important than matters of intelligence: Musk’s public unpopularity means nothing to his power, whereas it meant everything to Truss’s.
- comex 4y agoMusk also isn’t elected.
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- megablast 4y agoNeither was truss.
- chucky123 4y agoAgreed. For all his warts, he runs a ton of successful businesses.
- blueblisters 4y ago> My money's on Musk. Same. Worst case scenario for Musk is he gets Tesla to bankroll the takeover with some BS synergies as justification (like he did with Solar City). With fewer engineering resources, I don't expect any major changes to the platform. Advertisers might flee due to the uncertainty (and couldn't care less about Twitter) but as for the user base, they have no credible alternative to Twitter. Users will likely stick around for a while unless Musk pushes a few more footguns.
- bell-cot 4y agoAgree, but... Twitter clearly ain't the sort of business where Elan has done well, and it may be a bad fit for both his personality and public persona. Twitter could outlast the lettuce...but "win" with 0.1x the monthly revenue, or otherwise be headed for "the next MySpace" status.
- RavingGoat 4y agoIf it's true that he fired developers based off lines of code then I think Liz Truss is smarter.
- oxff 4y agoElon hate is getting quite delusional.
- croes 4y agoElon is getting quite delusional
- Ardren 4y agoIf only Elon would stop saying and doing silly things
- randomdata 4y agoOnce you have the audience prime for trolling, you’re going to do so. But the bigger question is why are we so happy to provide him, one of the richest people around, with free entertainment?
- wyclif 4y agoIt's his style. It's also how he trolls idiots saying delusional/hateful/incorrect things about what he's doing.
- mstipetic 4y agoThat’s a nice excuse. It’s just a prank, bro!
- hutattedonmyarm 4y agoThis is clearly a joke
- DonHopkins 4y agoElon's hate is getting quite delusional.
- LeoPanthera 4y agoContext: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Truss_lettuce https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Truss_lettuce Further context: https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1588673608037314561 https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1588673608037314561
- yuppiepuppie 4y agoThe dead horse has been beat
- abudabi123 4y agoThe next step is for Elon M. to cleanout the stables at the mic primes
- squaredot 4y agoThe greatest threat to an already established project is not an earthquake, but the unperturbed erosion of time that causes it to fall into insignificance. Trying to ignore all this attention given to Twitter, let's see a year from now....
- relyks 4y agoThis is funny, but comparing Twitter to Liz Truss is a bit silly. Liz Truss didn't have a vested interest to maintain a $44 billion investment. Elon Musk also wasn't elected to his current position as "Chief Twit" or "Twitter Complaint Hotline Operator"...
- pavlov 4y agoLiz Truss tried to implement a $48 billion tax cut plan that mostly benefited the very rich. She wasn’t elected to her position either (Conservative party insiders chose her). In a sense the Truss premiership was a risky investment by the British elite that would have given them a massive windfall if it had worked. And Twitter is a risky investment by the American right-wing elite, many of whom put in their money with Musk without doing any due diligence (Ellison, Andreessen etc.)
- shapefrog 4y ago> Liz Truss didn't have a vested interest to maintain a $44 billion investment. Liz Truss had vested interests to maintain a $1 trillion investment.
- mat_epice 4y agoI must say, nice looking plate. That lettuce is already not looking so hot, though.
- stavros 4y agoLooking better than Twitter, at least.
- glitchc 4y agoMy money's on the Internet moving on. Twitter, as it exists right now, is done. Whatever emerges from the ashes won't look anything like the original. We may be looking at the birth of Parler 2.0.
- dmak 4y agoWhy do you think this would end up like Parler 2.0?
- dagi3d 4y agoI thought pretty much the same when I read a bunch of research/innovation teams were completely dismantled.
- dmak 4y agoIf the new buyer has a complete different vision, wouldn't it make more sense to hire the right people to build out that vision and have them innovate towards that instead of retaining the old people innovating for the old vision? It's not like the previous team has innovated on much in the last decade of Twitter either.
- benjaminwootton 4y agoBecause letting a few right leaning voices back to question the lefty loonies who currently run amok on there qualifies as hate speech.
- dmak 4y agoIsn't it a bit early to judge when we haven't seen the new strategy for how to address this issue?
- bogantech 4y agoIn a month everyone will have moved on to the next trendy thing to rage about and nothing will have changed at twitter
- unknownaccount 4y agoThe purchase of twitter for $44b will be known as the most expensive corporate mistake in history. He's aleady chased away most of his advertisers, pissed off both sides of the political spectrum with his selective enforcement of rules, and clearly he's reneged on the whole idea of turning Twitter into a "public square" as theyre still taking down legal free speech. His ship is sinking. fast.
- dmak 4y agoIt's too early to judge.
- ideamotor 4y agoYou’re right. He still might realize he can use it to extract personally profitable handouts from ethno-nationalistic autocrats. Through suppression, promotion, and sharing user data. That would be good for him at least.
- phtrivier 4y ago"This thing Elon Musk is doing is insane, it's never going to work" is bound to be true once in a while. Let's just give this some time, though...
- pasttense01 4y agoNonsense. For example Yahoo had the opportunity to buy Google for $5 billion in 2002, and 20 years later Google is worth more than a trillion dollars. Or look at another trillion dollar plus company Microsoft--and remember that it was IBM that came out with the IBM PC in 1981--and then IBM totally blew it.
- nathias 4y agoI guess refreshing to see the masks drop as people turn to actively promoting corporate censorhip. I didn't think it there was this many, but I guess US politics with its cycles of polarization increased those numbers...
- krisoft 4y ago> actively promoting corporate censorhip What does “corporate censorship” mean to you in this context? Genuinly currious. There is at least two different ways I can interpret your comment and they are basically polar opposites of each other.
- nathias 4y agoI mean the opposite of platform neutrality.
- benjaminwootton 4y agoIts also amusing seeing left leaning people announcing their Mastodon in a form of protest, then just continue posting only on Twitter. And soon to start visibly ponying up $8/month to Elon.
- tmellon2 4y agoDoes someone have a better sense of economics of charging $8/Month ? At best assuming approximately the 420,000 [see Ref.1] folks currently on twitter will pay $8/Month - which gives about $40 Million in annual revenue. Will the economics work if the advertisers stay out ? Also, why charge $8 in the first place if the number is too low ( < $40 Million), given as Mr.Musk puts it, twitter is losing $4 Million a day ! Source : [1] https://www.statista.com/chart/28633/verified-users-on-tw https://www.statista.com/chart/28633/verified-users-on-tw
- kondro 4y agoI think he expects a large portion of the other 300m+ accounts to pay $8 too.
- sofixa 4y agoDidn't he himself claim a lot of them are bots?
- shapefrog 4y ago95% of them are bots, that leaves only 15mil accounts. If they all sign up, they will make an extra $1.4 bil a year, which would certainly help. But they will be getting half as many ads, so if you halve the advertising revenue that is losing $2.5 bil a year - net net a reduction of twitter revenue of $0.9bil
- dmak 4y agoThat depends. There might be a premium for advertisers to pay to target the half of ads that blue users can see.
- treffer 4y agoI think there is more to it.... They will probably require a non-anonymous credit card and if things line up you are verified. So it is probably +$8/month -75% of the cost of that feature. "Pull out your credit card and pay" is a nice anti-spam feature and verification is a bank duty anyway. So it is pretty likely that any abuse can be pushed down to the person doing the impersonation. Plus it is most valuable to brands (even personal brands), so $8/month isn't much.
- stelliosk 4y agoWhat is the definition of "outlast" in this instance?
- Tsiklon 4y agoI suspect outlast will be either twitter suffers some massive temporary outage that shakes confidence in the service as a whole or the venture itself collapses.
- dylan604 4y agoIs it massive enough to form a black hole when it collapses or not massive enough so it only goes super novae instead? It's not like it's Facebook size
- jl6 4y agoThe last one to slowly decay into a festering pool of goop, colonized by competing microorganisms seeking to dominate the goop with their own tiny idea of what success looks like, while higher ad-versaries extract sustenance from them and the goop for a short while, until a sticky dead equilibrium is reached.
- barrenko 4y agoAll social media is dead, just like traditional newspapers, and this won't save it/them. Elon nonwithstanding.
- sys_64738 4y agoThis is nonsensical in that the original meaning of the lettuce is totally lost to most. You have to go back to the early 90s to understand the historical context of this whole backstory. Right now this type of thing is totally missing what it actually means.