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As someone who spends pretty much all working time with IngelliJ, CLion, and PyTorch... I have no idea what you're talking about. CLion is insanely fast and it

As someone who spends pretty much all working time with IngelliJ, CLion, and PyTorch... I have no idea what you're talking about. CLion is insanely fast and its autocomplete and refactoring completely outclasses all Visual Studio products. The embedded CMake is the cherry on top. Remote debugging works even with custom gdb server on custom hardware. What else could I possibly want from my IDE?

lokedhs 4y ago
I think OP may be talking about Fleet, which seems to be an attempt at making their IDE into something taken out of the webapp design rulebook. If that's the future of IntelliJ IDEA, then I don't want to develop using their tools anymore. Is that what "kids these days" expect from an IDE?
- pelagicAustral 4y ago
- kaba0 4y ago
  Why would they phase out their other products? The actual code intelligence part is the exact same between them, fleet is just a client shell using that as well. It is only made so the “lightweight IDE” niche is filled as well.
pelagicAustral 4y ago
Mate, they are phasing out their classic IDE. https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2022/06/addressing-the-new-ui-comments/ https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2022/06/addressing-the-new-u...
- spacentropy 4y ago
  This post is not about Fleet, it’s about new clean UI for classic IDEs. I tried it in Rider and really liked it, it’s much cleaner. https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2022/05/take-part-in-the-new-ui-preview-for-your-jetbrains-ide/ https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2022/05/take-part-in-the-new... AFAIK there are no plans to discontinue the classic IDEs in favor of Fleet
  - kyriakos 4y ago
    The new ui is a big improvement, they only removed/cleaned the right stuff, things I didn't even realize were getting in my way.
- fxtentacle 4y ago
  No, they are merely changing how the default settings look like. Besides, they'll give every subscriber a perpetual license for the current version before that happens. So if I really don't like it, I can just stay on CLion 2022.3. It's not like C++17 will be outdated anytime soon.
mk89 4y ago
> CLion is insanely fast and its autocomplete and refactoring To be honest, I am not impressed. It's a good product, I bought it because I don't like the plugins fragmentation on VS code and overall it has better support for tooling, but hell, it's for me not comparable to IntelliJ for Java. But I agree it works quite good.

lokedhs 4y ago

I think OP may be talking about Fleet, which seems to be an attempt at making their IDE into something taken out of the webapp design rulebook. If that's the future of IntelliJ IDEA, then I don't want to develop using their tools anymore. Is that what "kids these days" expect from an IDE?

pelagicAustral 4y ago
kaba0 4y ago
Why would they phase out their other products? The actual code intelligence part is the exact same between them, fleet is just a client shell using that as well. It is only made so the “lightweight IDE” niche is filled as well.

pelagicAustral 4y ago

Mate, they are phasing out their classic IDE. https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2022/06/addressing-the-new-ui-comments/ https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2022/06/addressing-the-new-u...

spacentropy 4y ago
This post is not about Fleet, it’s about new clean UI for classic IDEs. I tried it in Rider and really liked it, it’s much cleaner. https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2022/05/take-part-in-the-new-ui-preview-for-your-jetbrains-ide/ https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2022/05/take-part-in-the-new... AFAIK there are no plans to discontinue the classic IDEs in favor of Fleet
- kyriakos 4y ago
  The new ui is a big improvement, they only removed/cleaned the right stuff, things I didn't even realize were getting in my way.
fxtentacle 4y ago
No, they are merely changing how the default settings look like. Besides, they'll give every subscriber a perpetual license for the current version before that happens. So if I really don't like it, I can just stay on CLion 2022.3. It's not like C++17 will be outdated anytime soon.

mk89 4y ago

> CLion is insanely fast and its autocomplete and refactoring To be honest, I am not impressed. It's a good product, I bought it because I don't like the plugins fragmentation on VS code and overall it has better support for tooling, but hell, it's for me not comparable to IntelliJ for Java. But I agree it works quite good.