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Our family routinely gets close to our 1.2TB cap. Working from home contributes, but another big contributor is the Nintendo Switch and Steam. Both of them are

Our family routinely gets close to our 1.2TB cap. Working from home contributes, but another big contributor is the Nintendo Switch and Steam. Both of them are constantly pulling down big game updates. If you have a PS5 or Xbox, it would be a similar situation if you own a decent sized game library. 1TB isn't what it used to be...

qmarchi 4y ago
As noted, data usage after 11PM (until 7AM) isn't considered as part of your data utilization, so you can schedule any game updates between those times. Most of the time, you aren't even playing the games actively, so you won't even notice the ~6h delay after patch release.
- kjkjadksj 4y ago
  So now when you buy a game you have to wait until your overnight download window opens to play it?
  - Jedd 4y ago
    > So now when you buy a game you have to wait until your overnight download window opens to play it? That's a very disingenuous interpretation of parent's suggestion. My reading of their comment was that a) there's 1/3 of every day that's not covered by this quota / throttling allowance, and so b) it's easy to configure your game store download manager to pull game _patches_ during that window. I guess AAA games are around the 50GB these days? If you're buying dozens of these each months, you may have some larger self-control issues to contend with. Keep in mind we're talking about people using a nominally beta internet service that's got a minimum average ~50ms latency, at any point in talking to one of a thousand satellites. People that are using Starlink tend to be here because there's no options, or really really really poor options (eg. geostationary satellite - which is what I was on previously, with its 150GB / month limit, 600ms latency, etc). Some appreciation for the fact these pipes are finite and shared is expected and assumed, much more so than urban internet users with nice fat terrestrial connections.
    - Rioghasarig 4y ago
      How in the world is that disingenuous? That's the direct implication.
      - Jedd 4y ago
        What do you mean by 'the direct implication'? GP said you can schedule game updates for the 1/3 of each day that you're not metered. P incorrectly translated that to 'when you buy a game you have to wait a day to play it'. So, as I already argued, these are not the same thing -- purchase & download of a game (impulse) vs regular patches (easily scheduled out of hours), and for a new game it's entirely up to you if you want to pull that down immediately (a modest percentage of 1TB).
      - deleted 4y ago
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    - kjkjadksj 4y ago
      Triple a games are more like 200gb these days
      - heromal 4y ago
        CoD, 2k,and Ark Survival, sure, but VERY few games are 200gb
  - justsomehnguy 4y ago
    First World Problems.jpg
dmix 4y ago
> 1TB isn't what it used to be... Maybe on Fiber but if I was using a satellite service idk, I might understand the difference. Having lived in a rural home with WiMAX the idea of having 1TB caps with high speed sounds like something you don't get to complain about.
- orra 4y ago
  > Maybe on Fiber Until now Starlink was advertising speeds as 50–200 Mbps. On the low side that is competitive with VDSL2 FTTC. On the high side, that's faster than the packages most users take out on FTTP* * In the UK, anyway, by far most FTTP users take out entry level packages. These packages often coincide with FTTC speed tiers; if they don't, 100 or 150Mbps is the highest entry level tier.
  - dmix 4y ago
    I dont know what UK VDSL2 is but in Canada if you're outside a city or town you spend $75/m on 20mbps that fails whenever it rains. My friend who moved to a rural farm has been raving about how life-changing Starlink has been for him and he only lives 20 minutes outside a town with 40k people and 1.5hrs from a city with 4 million. And we allegedly live in a country where gov subsidies justify the exorbitant ISP prices and allegedly rural people benefit from that... Where a free market wouldnt. Allegedly.
    - orra 4y ago
      Yikes, that's appalling. VDSL is an evolution of ADSL. You can get speeds of 50-78 Mbps, depending on distance to cabinet, for under £30/month. Coverage isn't universal, but it sounds better than in Canada. It's also interesting (but disappointing!) Canada's been let down by the telecoms regulator in an entirely different way. In the UK, BT was beginning to roll out fibre, but that was cancelled in favour of privatisation in 1984. Here we are nearly four decades later, and only now is FTTP being rolled out in earnest.

qmarchi 4y ago

As noted, data usage after 11PM (until 7AM) isn't considered as part of your data utilization, so you can schedule any game updates between those times. Most of the time, you aren't even playing the games actively, so you won't even notice the ~6h delay after patch release.

kjkjadksj 4y ago
So now when you buy a game you have to wait until your overnight download window opens to play it?
- Jedd 4y ago
  > So now when you buy a game you have to wait until your overnight download window opens to play it? That's a very disingenuous interpretation of parent's suggestion. My reading of their comment was that a) there's 1/3 of every day that's not covered by this quota / throttling allowance, and so b) it's easy to configure your game store download manager to pull game _patches_ during that window. I guess AAA games are around the 50GB these days? If you're buying dozens of these each months, you may have some larger self-control issues to contend with. Keep in mind we're talking about people using a nominally beta internet service that's got a minimum average ~50ms latency, at any point in talking to one of a thousand satellites. People that are using Starlink tend to be here because there's no options, or really really really poor options (eg. geostationary satellite - which is what I was on previously, with its 150GB / month limit, 600ms latency, etc). Some appreciation for the fact these pipes are finite and shared is expected and assumed, much more so than urban internet users with nice fat terrestrial connections.
  - Rioghasarig 4y ago
    How in the world is that disingenuous? That's the direct implication.
    - Jedd 4y ago
      What do you mean by 'the direct implication'? GP said you can schedule game updates for the 1/3 of each day that you're not metered. P incorrectly translated that to 'when you buy a game you have to wait a day to play it'. So, as I already argued, these are not the same thing -- purchase & download of a game (impulse) vs regular patches (easily scheduled out of hours), and for a new game it's entirely up to you if you want to pull that down immediately (a modest percentage of 1TB).
    - deleted 4y ago
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  - kjkjadksj 4y ago
    Triple a games are more like 200gb these days
    - heromal 4y ago
      CoD, 2k,and Ark Survival, sure, but VERY few games are 200gb
- justsomehnguy 4y ago
  First World Problems.jpg

dmix 4y ago

> 1TB isn't what it used to be... Maybe on Fiber but if I was using a satellite service idk, I might understand the difference. Having lived in a rural home with WiMAX the idea of having 1TB caps with high speed sounds like something you don't get to complain about.

orra 4y ago
> Maybe on Fiber Until now Starlink was advertising speeds as 50–200 Mbps. On the low side that is competitive with VDSL2 FTTC. On the high side, that's faster than the packages most users take out on FTTP* * In the UK, anyway, by far most FTTP users take out entry level packages. These packages often coincide with FTTC speed tiers; if they don't, 100 or 150Mbps is the highest entry level tier.
- dmix 4y ago
  I dont know what UK VDSL2 is but in Canada if you're outside a city or town you spend $75/m on 20mbps that fails whenever it rains. My friend who moved to a rural farm has been raving about how life-changing Starlink has been for him and he only lives 20 minutes outside a town with 40k people and 1.5hrs from a city with 4 million. And we allegedly live in a country where gov subsidies justify the exorbitant ISP prices and allegedly rural people benefit from that... Where a free market wouldnt. Allegedly.
  - orra 4y ago
    Yikes, that's appalling. VDSL is an evolution of ADSL. You can get speeds of 50-78 Mbps, depending on distance to cabinet, for under £30/month. Coverage isn't universal, but it sounds better than in Canada. It's also interesting (but disappointing!) Canada's been let down by the telecoms regulator in an entirely different way. In the UK, BT was beginning to roll out fibre, but that was cancelled in favour of privatisation in 1984. Here we are nearly four decades later, and only now is FTTP being rolled out in earnest.