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Curious to hear about these good intentions from MS/IE after the browser wars. Honestly, not being sarcastic. From what I've heard they stopped innovating becau

Curious to hear about these good intentions from MS/IE after the browser wars. Honestly, not being sarcastic. From what I've heard they stopped innovating because they no longer had competition, until Firefox in the early 2000's.

1970-01-01 4y ago
A lot of heavy lifting for e-commerce and online business was done by MS in this era. Here are some examples from MSDN: Auth design, process isolation, and why you should be using SSL and certs: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/archive/msdn-magazine/2000/july/web-security-part-2-introducing-the-web-application-manager-client-authentication-options-and-process-isolation https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/archive/msdn-magazine/2000... XML and XPath: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/archive/msdn-magazine/2000/july/the-xml-files-addressing-infosets-with-xpath https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/archive/msdn-magazine/2000... Introduction of .NET: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/archive/msdn-magazine/2000/september/microsoft-net-framework-delivers-the-platform-for-an-integrated-service-oriented-web https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/archive/msdn-magazine/2000...
- hakre 4y ago
  IE didn't support XPath, a bit loose if style at all how the hrefs are dropping here.
- JustLurking2022 4y ago
  As a .NET developer since the early days, it's purpose has always been to sell more Windows Server and SQL Server licenses. For the first 15 years, there was no official support for other platforms. More recently, the runtime is cross platform but many libraries only have support for MSFT products out of the box (e.g. WPF, or entity framework relying on external maintainers to write providers for most popular OSS DBs).
- jbverschoor 4y ago
  .NET exists because ms didn’t want to pay licenses Also, they had visual J++. That was a nice ide, with an embrace and extend strategy to be evil. The.NET history seems incomplete. I recall downloading .NET beta for FreeBSD in the 90s or maybe beginning of 2000. I can’t seem to find anything about this anymore
rhaway84773 4y ago
IE’s problem was that it was too successful and Netscape couldn’t keep up. Further, MS had shorty coding practices so IE was deeply ingrained into Windows. But IE set a whole lot of standards and pushed the web forward. The one complaint with IE was that at some point it stagnated. This was unlikely due to malice on MS’s part and more likely because once again, MS’s shitty coding standards meant it just couldn’t improve. One way to know this is true is the fact that even after IE was surpassed and rapidly losing market share, MS wasn’t able to bring it up to speed with its competitors. It had to create an entirely new browser to even try and come close.
cenal 4y ago
Anyone who remembers that era of Internet Explorer with positivity must have been on an island of consumer facing websites like Geocities and never had to deal with ActiveX websites.

1970-01-01 4y ago

A lot of heavy lifting for e-commerce and online business was done by MS in this era. Here are some examples from MSDN: Auth design, process isolation, and why you should be using SSL and certs: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/archive/msdn-magazine/2000/july/web-security-part-2-introducing-the-web-application-manager-client-authentication-options-and-process-isolation https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/archive/msdn-magazine/2000... XML and XPath: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/archive/msdn-magazine/2000/july/the-xml-files-addressing-infosets-with-xpath https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/archive/msdn-magazine/2000... Introduction of .NET: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/archive/msdn-magazine/2000/september/microsoft-net-framework-delivers-the-platform-for-an-integrated-service-oriented-web https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/archive/msdn-magazine/2000...

hakre 4y ago
IE didn't support XPath, a bit loose if style at all how the hrefs are dropping here.
JustLurking2022 4y ago
As a .NET developer since the early days, it's purpose has always been to sell more Windows Server and SQL Server licenses. For the first 15 years, there was no official support for other platforms. More recently, the runtime is cross platform but many libraries only have support for MSFT products out of the box (e.g. WPF, or entity framework relying on external maintainers to write providers for most popular OSS DBs).
jbverschoor 4y ago
.NET exists because ms didn’t want to pay licenses Also, they had visual J++. That was a nice ide, with an embrace and extend strategy to be evil. The.NET history seems incomplete. I recall downloading .NET beta for FreeBSD in the 90s or maybe beginning of 2000. I can’t seem to find anything about this anymore

rhaway84773 4y ago

IE’s problem was that it was too successful and Netscape couldn’t keep up. Further, MS had shorty coding practices so IE was deeply ingrained into Windows. But IE set a whole lot of standards and pushed the web forward. The one complaint with IE was that at some point it stagnated. This was unlikely due to malice on MS’s part and more likely because once again, MS’s shitty coding standards meant it just couldn’t improve. One way to know this is true is the fact that even after IE was surpassed and rapidly losing market share, MS wasn’t able to bring it up to speed with its competitors. It had to create an entirely new browser to even try and come close.

cenal 4y ago

Anyone who remembers that era of Internet Explorer with positivity must have been on an island of consumer facing websites like Geocities and never had to deal with ActiveX websites.