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Intel still commands the market with about 3/4 as far as market share. They simply make more CPUs than everyone else if you’re not looking at phones.

Ptchd 4y ago
sure, but that's because they have contracts with PC manufacturers? not because they have a better product at a better price....
- idonotknowwhy 4y ago
  They're also put performing AMD at the top end with their latest chips. And they dominate in the Steam hardware survey (gamers more likely to build their own machines)
- c_o_n_v_e_x 4y ago
  ... and IT procurement folks are familiar with the brand name. "No one ever got fired for buying IBM."
- iforgotpassword 4y ago
  Did you see the benchmarks for their current gen CPUs? They are on par with Ryzen 7000 and better in performance per Dollar. Especially since they still support ddr3 and fit in 12th gen sockets, making it even more attractive if you want to upgrade from last gen. With AMD you're forced to buy all new, with expensive ddr4.
  - neogodless 4y ago
    Minor correction: Last generation and legacy support is for DDR4. The new, more expensive stuff is DDR5.
    - iforgotpassword 4y ago
      Lol thanks, seems I'm getting old.
scarface74 4y ago
So they still command the market as long as you ignore the largest part of the market?
noselasd 4y ago
Why not look at phones, vehicles, dishwashers, cpus used on harddrives, eletric bicycles and so on - markets in high demand, many with supply issues at the moment ?
- BirAdam 4y ago
  In that case you have many manufacturers using older nodes and processes. It’s not comparing like with like at all. Also, older process fabs are still being built to address that issue. If we are talking about leading edge, high performance chips, we must all be honest with ourselves despite our personal feelings. I dislike some of Intels business practices, but they make a high quality product at volumes that are insane. Despite poor execution on some generations they’ve remained the top of the industry. That’s an amazing feat. Additionally, when they did fail, it was for trying something others had never attempted (GAAFET), and in my mind that isn’t as bad as failing using proven methods; especially so when they still kept a market lead and their older stuff managed to stay within spitting distance of the competition.

Ptchd 4y ago

sure, but that's because they have contracts with PC manufacturers? not because they have a better product at a better price....

idonotknowwhy 4y ago
They're also put performing AMD at the top end with their latest chips. And they dominate in the Steam hardware survey (gamers more likely to build their own machines)
c_o_n_v_e_x 4y ago
... and IT procurement folks are familiar with the brand name. "No one ever got fired for buying IBM."
iforgotpassword 4y ago
Did you see the benchmarks for their current gen CPUs? They are on par with Ryzen 7000 and better in performance per Dollar. Especially since they still support ddr3 and fit in 12th gen sockets, making it even more attractive if you want to upgrade from last gen. With AMD you're forced to buy all new, with expensive ddr4.
- neogodless 4y ago
  Minor correction: Last generation and legacy support is for DDR4. The new, more expensive stuff is DDR5.
  - iforgotpassword 4y ago
    Lol thanks, seems I'm getting old.

scarface74 4y ago

So they still command the market as long as you ignore the largest part of the market?

noselasd 4y ago

Why not look at phones, vehicles, dishwashers, cpus used on harddrives, eletric bicycles and so on - markets in high demand, many with supply issues at the moment ?

BirAdam 4y ago
In that case you have many manufacturers using older nodes and processes. It’s not comparing like with like at all. Also, older process fabs are still being built to address that issue. If we are talking about leading edge, high performance chips, we must all be honest with ourselves despite our personal feelings. I dislike some of Intels business practices, but they make a high quality product at volumes that are insane. Despite poor execution on some generations they’ve remained the top of the industry. That’s an amazing feat. Additionally, when they did fail, it was for trying something others had never attempted (GAAFET), and in my mind that isn’t as bad as failing using proven methods; especially so when they still kept a market lead and their older stuff managed to stay within spitting distance of the competition.