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No one has a right to chew you out in a vicious way. As owner he has a right to fire you, but if I were a Twitter employee and he raised his voice to me, I'd b

No one has a right to chew you out in a vicious way. As owner he has a right to fire you, but if I were a Twitter employee and he raised his voice to me, I'd be right in face at twice the volume. I'd have to get paid a lot more than a "competitive" salary to be viciously chewed out.

sandworm101 4y ago
The guy has money and acolytes in high places. Quit if you want, but dont make an enemy of someone who can blacklist you. Just leave. Dont make a scene.
- kenjackson 4y ago
  That just feels like a cheap way to live. Maybe it's prudent, but I feel like I couldn't live with myself.
  - ROTMetro 4y ago
    Read Sun Tzu, live like a great general, pick your battles wisely, and make the cost worth the gain. You will make more of a difference and live a life of more power than 'trying to not live a cheap way'.
    - kenjackson 4y ago
      It probably makes sense not to work for someone who can destroy your life and is inclined to do so on a whim. The calculus in dealing with those people is apparently different than just about anyone else you'll encounter in life.
      - more_corn 4y ago
        God help us if he colonizes mars and has total control of air water and heat. He won’t stop at baselessly accusing you of terrible crimes. (Which by the way he has yet to apologize for, meaning he’s not sorry and he’ll make no effort to stop) At a certain point we need to agree that his bad behavior is not worth the vision. I would never willing put myself at his mercy. Too bad he’s now in charge of defining free speech in this democracy.
        lapcat 4y ago
        > God help us if he colonizes mars and has total control of air water and heat. We've already seen this play out in the movie Total Recall: https://youtu.be/X8lT-Sn-HqE https://youtu.be/X8lT-Sn-HqE
  - Madmallard 4y ago
    Acting out makes you look like a buffoon even if someone else started it.
    - kenjackson 4y ago
      Maybe. But if I was in a meeting and Musk was tearing into someone unfairly and viciously and that person just sat there, I'd feel bad for them and a little disgusted. Conversely, I think it would be empowering to see them stand up to Musk. The thing is, Musk has enough money to treat everyone horribly and just have them quit. He would feel nothing. He'll just hire the next guy. But standing up to him I bet is something that happens nearly never.
- friendlyHornet 4y ago
  This. We're talking about a guy who publicly falsely accused a guy he was jealous of of being a pedo without evidence. Just imagine what he would do if he could get away with it without backlash I wouldn't want to gez on his bad side because I think he has the power and pettiness to ruin my life
  - glogla 4y ago
    You can grovel in front of an abuser, giving up all human dignity, if you want. In the end, he is just a man, and evil one at that.
    - sandworm101 4y ago
      Leaving is not groveling.
  - sandworm101 4y ago
    And now he controls twitter. I doubt he will self-censor. Such allegations may well live on in search results for many years.
  - camjohnson26 4y ago
    You don’t have to imagine: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-03-13/when-elon-musk-tried-to-destroy-tesla-whistleblower-martin-tripp https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-03-13/when-elon...
    - kenjackson 4y ago
      That’s ugly. Alright, y’all have convinced me to not stand up to him. And more depressingly try to never cross his path, much less work for him.
    - smartbit 4y ago
      Link https://archive.ph/LPghE https://archive.ph/LPghE Tesla CEO Elon Musk Admits He May Have Bipolar Disorder https://yourdost.com/blog/2017/08/is-elon-musk-bipolar.html https://yourdost.com/blog/2017/08/is-elon-musk-bipolar.html
- Waterluvian 4y ago
  This sounds pragmatic. But it also sounds… I’m not sure but it set my alarm off. Abusers and bullies need to be stood up to.
  - rad_gruchalski 4y ago
    Yes, but it’s also worth keeping in mind which fights one can win. Nothing to win there by yelling back.
- dclusin 4y ago
  I think the relevant aphorism is: you can be right or you can be happy, but usually not both.
more_corn 4y ago
Totally

sandworm101 4y ago

The guy has money and acolytes in high places. Quit if you want, but dont make an enemy of someone who can blacklist you. Just leave. Dont make a scene.

kenjackson 4y ago
That just feels like a cheap way to live. Maybe it's prudent, but I feel like I couldn't live with myself.
- ROTMetro 4y ago
  Read Sun Tzu, live like a great general, pick your battles wisely, and make the cost worth the gain. You will make more of a difference and live a life of more power than 'trying to not live a cheap way'.
  - kenjackson 4y ago
    It probably makes sense not to work for someone who can destroy your life and is inclined to do so on a whim. The calculus in dealing with those people is apparently different than just about anyone else you'll encounter in life.
    - more_corn 4y ago
      God help us if he colonizes mars and has total control of air water and heat. He won’t stop at baselessly accusing you of terrible crimes. (Which by the way he has yet to apologize for, meaning he’s not sorry and he’ll make no effort to stop) At a certain point we need to agree that his bad behavior is not worth the vision. I would never willing put myself at his mercy. Too bad he’s now in charge of defining free speech in this democracy.
      - lapcat 4y ago
        > God help us if he colonizes mars and has total control of air water and heat. We've already seen this play out in the movie Total Recall: https://youtu.be/X8lT-Sn-HqE https://youtu.be/X8lT-Sn-HqE
- Madmallard 4y ago
  Acting out makes you look like a buffoon even if someone else started it.
  - kenjackson 4y ago
    Maybe. But if I was in a meeting and Musk was tearing into someone unfairly and viciously and that person just sat there, I'd feel bad for them and a little disgusted. Conversely, I think it would be empowering to see them stand up to Musk. The thing is, Musk has enough money to treat everyone horribly and just have them quit. He would feel nothing. He'll just hire the next guy. But standing up to him I bet is something that happens nearly never.
friendlyHornet 4y ago
This. We're talking about a guy who publicly falsely accused a guy he was jealous of of being a pedo without evidence. Just imagine what he would do if he could get away with it without backlash I wouldn't want to gez on his bad side because I think he has the power and pettiness to ruin my life
- glogla 4y ago
  You can grovel in front of an abuser, giving up all human dignity, if you want. In the end, he is just a man, and evil one at that.
  - sandworm101 4y ago
    Leaving is not groveling.
- sandworm101 4y ago
  And now he controls twitter. I doubt he will self-censor. Such allegations may well live on in search results for many years.
- camjohnson26 4y ago
  You don’t have to imagine: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-03-13/when-elon-musk-tried-to-destroy-tesla-whistleblower-martin-tripp https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-03-13/when-elon...
  - kenjackson 4y ago
    That’s ugly. Alright, y’all have convinced me to not stand up to him. And more depressingly try to never cross his path, much less work for him.
  - smartbit 4y ago
    Link https://archive.ph/LPghE https://archive.ph/LPghE Tesla CEO Elon Musk Admits He May Have Bipolar Disorder https://yourdost.com/blog/2017/08/is-elon-musk-bipolar.html https://yourdost.com/blog/2017/08/is-elon-musk-bipolar.html
Waterluvian 4y ago
This sounds pragmatic. But it also sounds… I’m not sure but it set my alarm off. Abusers and bullies need to be stood up to.
- rad_gruchalski 4y ago
  Yes, but it’s also worth keeping in mind which fights one can win. Nothing to win there by yelling back.
dclusin 4y ago
I think the relevant aphorism is: you can be right or you can be happy, but usually not both.

more_corn 4y ago

Totally