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This article reads like an abused partner defending their abuser. This kind of double-sidedness is extremely common in abusive relationships, in large part beca
by stormbrew 4y ago
This article reads like an abused partner defending their abuser. This kind of double-sidedness is extremely common in abusive relationships, in large part because it's a really effective method of exerting control over someone while encouraging them to blame themselves for being abused.
> If there are employees not aligned with that vision, he will chew them out and he will do it in a vicious way, which is his right as owner.
Is it?
- xeromal 4y agoThis guy worked with elon for 1 year. He's says in the article that he didn't enjoy that style of management and left. Sounds like he's the perfect candidate for this topic rather than a yes man from elon
- kenjackson 4y agoNo one has a right to chew you out in a vicious way. As owner he has a right to fire you, but if I were a Twitter employee and he raised his voice to me, I'd be right in face at twice the volume. I'd have to get paid a lot more than a "competitive" salary to be viciously chewed out.
- sandworm101 4y agoThe guy has money and acolytes in high places. Quit if you want, but dont make an enemy of someone who can blacklist you. Just leave. Dont make a scene.
- kenjackson 4y agoThat just feels like a cheap way to live. Maybe it's prudent, but I feel like I couldn't live with myself.
- ROTMetro 4y agoRead Sun Tzu, live like a great general, pick your battles wisely, and make the cost worth the gain. You will make more of a difference and live a life of more power than 'trying to not live a cheap way'.
- kenjackson 4y agoIt probably makes sense not to work for someone who can destroy your life and is inclined to do so on a whim. The calculus in dealing with those people is apparently different than just about anyone else you'll encounter in life.
- more_corn 4y agoGod help us if he colonizes mars and has total control of air water and heat. He won’t stop at baselessly accusing you of terrible crimes. (Which by the way he has yet to apologize for, meaning he’s not sorry and he’ll make no effort to stop) At a certain point we need to agree that his bad behavior is not worth the vision. I would never willing put myself at his mercy. Too bad he’s now in charge of defining free speech in this democracy.
- lapcat 4y ago> God help us if he colonizes mars and has total control of air water and heat. We've already seen this play out in the movie Total Recall: https://youtu.be/X8lT-Sn-HqE https://youtu.be/X8lT-Sn-HqE
- Alupis 4y agoWe're all adults, don't like his style, don't work for him. It's that simple. Obviously enough people don't think his style is harsh or vicious, as described in the article, otherwise his numerous companies wouldn't have a line out the door of prospective employees. My take on the article was Musk drives you like a good highschool sports coach. Demanding, hard, unforgiving... and you either live up to the high expectations or you are weeded out. Which actually sounds wonderful... working with an entire organization that is aligned in thought and motivations, and everyone bringing their 'A' game. Compare that to your current job... Not to mention the guy in the article only worked with Musk for less than 1 year, over 20 years ago. I don't know about you, but I'm not the same person I was 20 year ago...
- agumonkey 4y agoKinda agreeing, but I have to say sometimes there's a thin line between sport coach and bad leader. You gotta ensure tact and fairness.
- Alupis 4y agoI think given Elon's obvious numerous successes, despite this latest frenzy of "Musk Bad", he's objectively a great leader. You do not get to where he is by being a bad leader. His entire job is leading, despite what people like to think (ie. that he's actually designing rockets or whatever...)
- mwint 4y agoI’d say Musk is the rare combination of a great leader, who also has the ability to learn arbitrary subjects quickly enough to tell whether he’s being bullshitted.
- agumonkey 4y agoFair point but I feel there's a large difference between his previous ventures and twitter, this one is purposeless and highly political. We'll see.
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- trentnix 4y ago> This article reads like an abused partner defending their abuser. You should read a few stories about working for Steve Jobs (or head to YouTube and watch interviews). This article is extremely mild, in comparison.
- Bilal_io 4y agoVery horrible vs. extremely horrible. Spot the difference.
- stormbrew 4y agoI feel the same way about accounts of working with most (if not all) modern arch-capitalists, trust me.
- xcavier 4y ago>> > If there are employees not aligned with that vision, he will chew them out and he will do it in a vicious way, which is his right as owner. Is it? >> Yes, this is the sentence that stopped me in my tracks. No-one has that "right". But more importantly, it isn't right...